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It may work, or not.
The main purpose of vArranger is to play styles inside vArranger

Hello Moshe, just sent you the software

Are you waiting for a feature that you need ?

Yes.
Right click on any track (Right 1 / 2 ...) and select SOUND EDIT
There, you can change the Keyboard Range and Velocity Range of each zone
Then SAVE RIGHT SOUND to save your nice preset

Nice idea, thanks for sharing

Just sent you an email

Nice but strange because one big button seems to type many pc keys together

-When you right click on a track and do SOUND EDIT, you can see the midi channel associated to the track
-I think they are the same as the midi channels you can see in the SOUND EDIT screen

SAVE RIGHT SOUND or SAVE LEFT SOUND can create new custom sound preset, that can be recalled on the RIGHT/LEFT track close to the master volume fader

When you SAVE SONG, you can check the box to recall the preset sound on LEFT and RIGHT track

Hello,
More recent vArranger version can play MP3+CDG files

Très sympa ! Beaucoup de talent, de travail et du plaisir. Bien mixé aussi !

More interesting   

You don't even know how much time such a feature will take to me to create          Hey, this is my job   

Even if you don't seem to be interested in finding a different solution that what you have asked
It is interesting to know that we can use 2 pc keyboards on the same PC
It is possible for exemple to buy a separate Bluetooth pc keyboard that will be used for controlling vArranger, and labelled as wanted
They are pretty cheap today

btw vArranger is not down ...

This is a good idea, but I think usually, it is better to stick a label on the PC keyboard..... It is more intuitive

I just answered your post, but it seems you have found a solution...

The MIDI 2 with PLAY NOTES option will play the notes of the LEFT parts.
The idea behind this was, for people who wants to play with 2 keyboards, to "steal" the left voices that are often not very important when playing with an arranger, and to offer them to a second keyboard

https://www.varranger.com/wiki/index.php?title=SF2

If you want to play a melody with a different midi instrument than the MIDI IN 1, you should set it on MIDI IN 2 and not MIDI IN 3, and check PLAY NOTES of MIDI IN 2. You can use the MIDI IN 3 for midi controllers
Then the LEFT track will be reserved for this MIDI IN 2 melodies

Using same audio with 2 pro software is usually not possible, unless the audio interface driver has this possibility (multiclient)

Non c'est étrange, je ne reçois pas tes emails, et tu ne reçois pas les miens.
Peux tu m'en écrire un autre?

Actually, not

Rudolf, You are welcome
You can now download everything on the forum
It seems that with the P-225, you can select the AUDIO OUT (ASIO/WASAPI) and then be able to play audio from vArranger (mp3 or virtual instruments) with the P225 speakers

Uncheck the LINK button, on top left of the MY SOUNDS section

Hello,

I can see on the picture that you are trying to play original Ketron styles. They often use LIVE DRUMS sound in their percussion tracks. Those are not standard and often sound bad with a basic GM drumkit
To play such tracks, you can use a Ketron sound module, or if you like our software synth, buy our optional soundbank to improve compatibility with such styles
https://www.varranger.com/contact-us/

Not yet, I don't have a Genos 2
I have a PA5X

Even in a good democracy, it not very nice to enter into a restaurant and declare to people sitting there that there is another better restaurant elsewhere.
I tried to explain.
Maybe you can understand, maybe not ? 
Again, we are here in the official forum of vArranger.

magali, content de te revoir parmi nous.
Contacte moi stp, je dois te parler des nouveautés du synthé de vArranger
https://www.varranger.com/contact-us/

I have worked 15 years to create a good vArranger software, and I am not happy when someone is using my software without buying it from me. This is even not legal.
We will not help such users here

Please buy vArranger and don't use not legal software
The new version is a lot better and without latency with the internal synth

Sorry for the late reply, I just answered to your first email

Just sent it to you

Yes

Yes ! Then it need a Sonar INS file of modx+ to work correctly, and assign it to the midi out :
https://www.varranger.com/vforum/index.php?msg=29623

I already sent you an answer that your link with the styles is not valid 

Bonjour,
Je ne pense pas que le Ketron Audya permet de brancher un clavier ou autre accessoire midi sur ses ports USB

Just sent you the instructions

Korg bank is a nice addition to play Korg styles and is compatible with other banks without conflicts
You can post some styles, and I will send you MP3 of how it sound

Please use this link to contact me https://www.varranger.com/contact-us/
Then I will answer to your email

Just sent you the links

Bonjour,
J'avais pas mal travaillé sur les styles Technics, mais pas complètement finalisé à cause d'un petit détail sur les Intros, mais c'est sensé déjà sonner
Vous pouvez m'envoyer quelques styles, et je les essayerai, et je vous dirais si ils fonctionnent

Ensuite, vous pourrez noter des accords sur une grille, puis exporter la chanson en midifile que vous pourrez importer dans Cubase

Oui c'est possible

That's what we are trying to do with our soundbank. However, it is impossible to get exactly a Genos

Bienvenu Patrick en ce jour ensoleillé j'imagine dans le sud de la France

Bienvenue !

Oui !

The separate process that loads the VST instruments of vArranger is called vASynth.exe
We provide 32 bit and 64 bit versions of the synth
Check if you have the 64 bit version in the task manager. It should be able to load 64 bit plugins

I did not get your emails
I just sent you a message with the instructions
You can contact here : https://www.varranger.com/contact-us/

Welcome to you Patrizio, it's never too late
Thanks for the positive feedback

DjTony, I hope to find some time soon to first explain some of the good things inside vArranger that you own but don't actually know

Hello Patrizio,

As you sent me many emails, I will answer all of them now

And the forum is missing the Thank you emoji

Just sent you an answer to your private email today on Sunday
This is a real website and a real software with content since 15 years

Hello,

Sorry for my late answer. I usually receive the email notifications of new forum posts, but recently there are sometimes big delays until I receive the forum notifications
The easiest way to contact me, is with the vArranger contact form
https://www.varranger.com/contact-us/
I will check your private message

v.muller thank you very much for your accurate answer

Very nice work
Thanks for the planet 

We can see the right 2 track is empty with no sound inside, so it will not sound
Try to select any sound before, so it will not be blank, then select your VST

You write a lot, but I am still not sure to understand your problem
Maybe you can create a video for us?

For guitar players, I suggest the FULL KEYBOARD mode, and in this mode you need to play at least 3 notes so the chord will change. With this you will not have wrong recognitions

I don't think it is a virus, but you have linked the space bar with a vArranger function (OPTIONS / CONTROLLERS).
So every time you hit the space bar, it will run the vArranger function.
Look at the MINIMIZE section here, to help you in that :
https://www.varranger.com/wiki/index.php/5.1._WINDOWS_PROGRAM#MINIMIZE_AND_CLOSE_ICONS

https://www.varranger.com/contact-us/

Très bonne musique! Bravo Lylo
Sine Qua Non, c'est un plaisir d'entendre des vrais musiciens avec une super basse ! et tous les musiciens au top

Pour les morceaux Lounge, on tombe parfois sur des longues vidéos comme ça sans prétention et seul les musiciens savent que derrière il y a un sacré boulot

You should update your vArranger

It should work with the jamorigin guitar 2!
Can you check the FULL KEYBOARD button is well activated?
If the recognition is too much sensitive with wrong chords when you move a bit your fingers, you can try to raise a bit the CHORD RECOGNITION VELOCITY THRESHOLD
https://www.varranger.com/wiki/index.php?title=5.1._WINDOWS_PROGRAM#MASTER
But not too much ! then the recognition will be wrong if you don't play the chords enough strong

Can you explain more what do you want to do?
What note do you play, and what chord should be recognized?
What is GUITAR2?

You can always play chords with one note (in split mode), but they will be major chords
To play minor chords, you need to play 2 notes
The SINGLE FINGER CHORD option, is a recognition mode like on Yamaha keyboard, but is not very interesting to play this way

Bonne année Lylo !!

I am not sure to understand, but it seems that you can load the Wersi HyperOEM.dll as VST, and you will see the sounds in the INS screen

https://www.varranger.com/contact-us/

Yes, this was a lot demanded, as in Yamaha keyboards registrations.
I thought it was better to have our sounds in a separate section, to create your favorite sounds and be able to use them on many songs.
But I can understand that some sounds are used only for one song style.

The only way to save upper sounds is to do SAVE RIGHT SOUND

It is actually loading your last preset, or last preset associated to the last song loaded
You can do SAVE RIGHT SOUND to save the actual preset
I am not sure I understand it well, so you can send a video to explain

If you want to use voices from VST and vAsynth together, you should use for example RIGHT 1 for VST and RIGHT 2 for vAsynth, then save right sound.

Non, pas nécessaire

C'est toujours possible, mais ne pas oublier d'installer la licence reg également sur chaque ordinateur

Vous devez acheter la version officielle de vArranger

 

Hello Michael,

Very nice pictures.
In vArranger OPTIONS / MIDI PORTS, you can select the MIDI ORGAN mode, and select the midi input channel for the lower / upper and pedalboard

Then in vArranger, you can see that the lower keyboard will play the LEFT 1 / LEFT 2 / LEFT 3 tracks

You can play the 3 sounds together, or split them

You can right click on any track, and do SOUND EDIT, or double click on the track

This will show you the sound edit screen, when you can change many parameters on each layer, and you can split there, and even change some of the velocity options.

Pour les styles genos, notre soundbank est très intéressante.

Vérifier que le mode KETRON SD2 est bien activé dans le menu OPTIONS/MIDIPORTS face à MIDI OUT 1
Ensuite, pas tous les styles sonneront bien avec le Ketron SD2, étant donné qu'il n'a pas forcément tous les sons/drumkits des Korg/technics/genos, mais commence avec des styles un peu plus anciens qui étaient plutôt compatibles GM. Ensuite, vArranger essaye de rediriger quelques éléments vers le SD2
S'il y a des styles qui te tiennent à cœur, je pourrais améliorer le mapping pour ces styles et le SD2

Quel module de sons utilises tu?

Did you try the MANUAL BASS button?

Je n'ai pas l'habitude de regarder des séries, mais celle là est particulièrement réussie
Bravo l'artiste ! rdv en 2025 pour l'episode 3

Please contact us here, as we don't have a user with the name Emerson : https://www.varranger.com/contact-us/

Tu avais déjà ce problème avec la guitare en direct sans midi ox? ou c'est un nouveau problème?

C'est une belle avancée ! et ca ouvre des portes pour ajouter des sons presque en illimité

Pour les midifiles, par défaut il utilise la banque de sons de base.
Il existe beaucoup mieux et installable facilement.

Essaye par exemple d'ajouter ce SF2 dans ton dossier SAMPLES
http://www.emu-france.com/?wpfb_dl=4234

Il existe de nombreuses banques SF2 GM gratuites sur le net de différentes tailles et qualité.
C'est un monde...

Pour chaque piste, il est toujours possible manuellement de sélectionner un autre son, parmi les banques disponibles, et faire SAVE SONG

Dan

Dans la version précédente, si tu voulais utiliser 6GB de sons, il fallait charger 6GB de sons en mémoire.
Ce qui prend du temps, et surtout nécessite beaucoup de mémoire.
Avec la nouvelle version, il n'est plus nécessaire de tout charger en mémoire, mais au moment où tu joues une note, il va la charger du SSD vers la mémoire, puis la jouer immédiatement.
Cela doit se faire très vite, et parfois il y a des dizaines de sons à jouer en même temps.
S'il n'arrive pas à tout charger assez vite, ca va s'entendre...
Pour aider le système, vArranger peut pré charger une partie des sons.
Tu peux définir la quantité de sons qui va être pré-chargée en mémoire. Et la quantité de mémoire utilisée pour les samples va s'afficher sur la jauge en haut. Il faut lui laisser le temps de se stabiliser avant de commencer à jouer. Il y a aussi une jauge CPU en haut qui est intéressante pour savoir si l'ordinateur est stressé ou pas.
Par exemple, en choisissant 50ms de PRELOAD, vArranger va charger en mémoire les 50 premieres millisecondes de toutes les notes de tous les instruments, afin de sécuriser leur démarrage.
Donc si dans la banque de sons un Do au piano a été enregistré sur 6 secondes, je vais charger au demarrage de vArranger uniquement les 50 premières millisecondes, et non les 6 secondes.
Lorsque la note sera jouée, l'ordinateur aura alors 50 millisecondes pour charger la suite de la note.
En principe cela fonctionne très bien sur la plupart des ordinateurs que j'ai essayé.
Montre nous ta fenêtre OPTIONS / MIDIPORTS.
Regarde également si ton PC est bien branché et non sur batterie, et s'il est bien en mode performances maximales et non économies d'énergie.

1) oui les banques servent par défaut pour les styles et peuvent être utilisés aussi en main droite/main gauche.

2) non. il vaut mieux ajouter une banque SF2 GM généraliste dans le dossier Samples. On le fera une fois résolu le problème de lenteur. Au fait quelle est la configuration CPU de cet ordinateur? c'est une surface pro 7?

3) le preload sert à te permettre d'utiliser plus de sons que ta mémoire ne te permettrait. et à démarrer le logiciel plus rapidement. A laisser de la mémoire disponible pour windows et les autres programmes.

Essaie de descendre le preload à 50 ms, s'il y a des cliketits, monte à 100 ou 150

Super ! Bravo !
Il faut juste faire attention que vArranger et Midi ox n'utilisent pas le même port midi

This style has different phrases depending on the chord played.
I tried to enter few chords in the song chords screen but I can't listen a problem.
Can you show us more?

oui loopmidi, mais aussi midiox qui permet de récupérer les 2 entrées midi physiques, et les merger vers un port virtuel loopmidi, qui sera récupéré dans vArranger

I will detail

Je vais détailler

WAW ! 

OSC un projet que j'ai commencé, mais pas encore terminé... qui permet de piloter vArranger depuis une tablette ou un téléphone

Bonjour,

Non, surtout si tu veux changer les accords avec le clavier et la guitare branchées.
Mais le principe de la merge box en amont de vArranger devrait fonctionner
Soit en hardware, soit en software

Je suis bien d'accord avec toi, pour aller vers un design plus "flat" et léger, et abandonner les boutons en reliefs qui datent des premières versions de l'iPhone
Tu as une photo de ton home-studio?

A big world

Je vois que tu n'aimes pas les couleurs vives

Thanks

I think most on this website are not free.
You can send me some MusicXML files + chords, so I can learn more about the file format

Merci Stéphane, n'hésite pas à nous faire part de tes couleurs préférées, à l'aide de photos d'écrans exemples

Hello Gerard,

Yes the default grouping is based on the midi program change of the instrument, and the only way to create your own grouping, is to save sound.
But maybe it's better for you to only add the sound you really like and want to use.

Regards,

Dan

vArranger can import the chords from Band In A Box songs
Maybe I can add the MusicXML format, but is there a big song database with chords in this format ?

You are Welcome

If vArranger doesn't highly control every message that it sent, then tons of styles will sound bad / not in time

I tried to include ALL known messages in vArranger and even send them accordingly to the synth connected

Let me know if an important message is missing to you


I am afraid Playing accomp tracks from the variation + the fill in drums together doesn't seem to be a simple task. Actually in the code, every variation is well separated, and can't mix 2 variations together easily. This probably need to change 5000 lines of code in the core engine, and I am afraid to create bugs with such structural changes.

By the way, I appreciate interesting suggestions from an experimented user like you

Maybe you should first buy vArranger?

vArranger midi flow is highly optimized, and this is very important to get a rock solid arranger
If you think the style is not sounding as it should, then let me know

Do you here some reverb on the track, when it should not? If yes, you can post the style.
If the reverb is already at 0, it will not send the message again

They sound usually better on the original keyboard...
You can send a style, and I will record mp3 demo for you
Korg bank is more from the PA3X than PA4X
No KST for now yet, but should come one day

Thank you !
I am fine and hope you are too
It seems I didn't receive many emails and notifications from the forum recently.
I need to check why.
Have a good day

Dan

When you clic on the main LEFT track, it "reloads" the saved sound preset

Are you sure you did not saved the song (SAVE SONG) with the LEFT OCTAVE changed?

When you select the main LEFT TRACK, you can see the main left OCTAVE setting in the top right of vArranger screen

Sent you a private message

Il est probable que notre SoundBank soit plus compatible avec les styles Yamaha que le SD1000

Si tu joues principalement avec des styles Ketron alors le SD1000 est très bien. Si tu préfères les styles Yamaha ou autre, on peut réfléchir

Actuellement, tu branches le sd1000 sur la sono? Sur une table de mixage ? La Focusrite ne va Rien changer et n'est pas utilisée. Par contre, cela pourrait te permettre d'ajouter de nouveaux sons virtuels générés par l'ordinateur

The volumes and all other settings of the Rights tracks are saved in presets with SAVE RIGHT SOUND
When you recall the right preset, all will come back
The right presets can be found when you click on the RIGHT track, close to the master volume fader

You can click on the LEFT track, close to the master volume fader
Then select OFF, on top left of the sound groups (Piano, E.Piano...)

This will disable the LEFT tracks

1) You can change the SPLIT POINT
Clic on the SPLIT label on the orange screen, then play your new chord split

2) You can go on SAVE / STARTUP CONFIG and uncheck RIGHT OCTAVE - 1 ON SPLIT
If it is still too low, then you can press on OCTAVE + 1

I use the Yamaha Sysex to detect if the track is a drums track, but only to fill the drum mixer section
As a user can change manually at anytime the sound of the drum track, and move from a drum track to a normal track, I don't rely on the sysex, but on what sound is actually selected
The name displayed on the track is displaying DRUMS and is displaying the program number
In SD1000 mode, The bank 127-0 is not sent to the SD1000, and the correct SD1000 Drums sysex is sent
If you really want to avoid this dispay, you should create a Ketron style, that has different rules

Let me know if it works OK beside the display of the instrument name

You can try to set the bank 0 MSB to 127 like Yamaha styles

Yes, but some cheap interfaces are loosing some midi events from time to time
It seems CME are ok, but I never tried it

You need another one like Roland UM ONE

I never tried it, but it should work, seems to need an external midi USB adapter and maybe some configuration. It is not very compact to carry

You can try using the sd1000 with usb cable and not midi. I think the midi cable is bad

What minute of the video? This is long

This Yamaha way is a bit strange. What is the goal? to do a softer fill-in from time to time, with only drums that changes?

If you have a problem with the midi, it is probably your midi interface.
What model of midi interface do you use?

Update sent

Vraiment excellent !! Que d'imagination  et quelle réalisation ! On attend le prochain épisode 

Yes. Old and simple but very efficient

I have found this on my hard drive

2.1.20 does not exists. He means 1.20.02

If you have problem with the updating process, please contact us for direct help
https://www.varranger.com/contact-us/

vArranger is a very stable software and very well optimized to not use too much computer ressources
The sound will finally depend on the styles and synth you will use

No we don't have a demo version.
From what you told me, you want to play with a midi accordion some music in realtime, with left hand playing chords and right hand the melody?

Reaper is not needed with vArranger
You will not find much videos, however help is provided when you buy the software to get your setup configured, and you can ask still any questions

Il y aussi le fait que nous avons eu plusieurs échanges et envoi de mises à jour durant la période en question

Non vraiment pas désolé 

Yes that's bad, so you need to remap every sound and SAVE......
Maybe use it as a second synth source to add some good quality instruments that you will select

Excuses acceptées 

I can see the FA06 includes a gm2 bank in the 121 bank
https://www.roland.com/fr/support/by_product/fa-08/owners_manuals/a3ba4253-4589-4975-8896-7a71c1184516/

Maybe you can set the GM2 mode in the OPTIONS/MIDIPORTS for that midi out.

The problem with that, is that it will probably not allows you to access sounds other than the GM2 ones

Merci de me contacter ici : https://www.varranger.com/contact-us/ et on regardera ensemble

Welcome to vArranger !
Software sent
Waiting for your review

En effet, la plupart des synthés rebasculent les sons vers la banque GM lorsqu'ils ne sont pas trouvés dans une banque.

Certains synthés (surement comme le KORG PA4X) décident de rendre la piste silencieuse si le son n'existe pas précisément à l'emplacement en question (Bank MSB - Bank LSB - Program Change)

Dans ce cas, il faudra manuellement choisir un son parmi les sons existant dans le PA4X sur la piste en question

Pour aider dans cette tache, il est plus simple de charger le fichier de définition INS du synthé utilisé. Pour sélectionner le son parmi une liste. Je t'ai trouvé un fichier de définition pour le Korg PA4X ici :
https://www.varranger.com/vforum/index.php?msg=37900

Ici est expliqué la méthode pour lier une sortie midi à un fichier INS
https://www.varranger.com/vforum/index.php?msg=29623

Ainsi, les noms des instruments sur les pistes seront ceux du PA4X


Vous pouvez télécharger des styles un peu partout, mais aussi sur notre section de téléchargement
https://www.varranger.com/vforum/index.php?action=unread;c=3

Vous êtes libre d'organiser les fichiers comme bon vous semble

Je répond en parallèle à votre email

Korg PA4X v3 by Tony

Si tu as les pistes Drums et Perc qui fonctionnent et pas les autres, c'est parceque vArranger n'a pas encore reconnu un accord joué

Met le PA4X en mode FULL KEYBOARD (et non SPLIT)  et joue un accord à la main gauche

Si l'accord n'est toujours pas reconnu, c'est qu'il y a autre chose à modifier

Tu peux également rentrer quelques accords dans OPTIONS / SONG CHORDS, et vérifier si là tu as les autres pistes qui jouent

Dan

Hello,

vArranger's price is still 349€ and updates during the first year are included
After the first year, users can get new updates for 50€ for one more year of updates
Users can subscribe and unsubscribe at anytime, vArranger will continue to work anyway

Regards,

Dan

Great !

Again, we will not continue more in public forums on this subject
You can contact me in a private email if needed

This is because you paid 50€ in 2020, and you received the update you paid for

The Wizz, I am sorry, but you will need to pay to get the new version too

Je crois qu'ils ne comprennent pas trop ce que tu fabriques Mais un petit retour, au vu du travail réalisé, serait quand même appréciable.
Par contre j'ai l'impression qu'il y a une très grande différence de volume au cours du morceau qui semble être souvent pianissimo avec une grande reverb, donc on entend un peu de loin et parfois ça monte très haut en fortissimo. Peut être qu'en montant un peu la vélocité du clavier, cela diminuerait un peu la trop grande dynamique. A moins que ce soit voulu par le morceau et le style classique, où il faut tendre l'oreille, puis se faire surprendre.

https://www.varranger.com/contact-us/

En effet, bravo pour le travail accompli  !!
Tu as eu le droit à un petit merci de leur part? 

It seems we don't understand each other after many messages here.
We will not continue more in public forums with you on this subject
You can contact me in a private email if you think something constructive can be found

The numbering of the versions was not very well done. Don't stick to the version numbers
From 2019 to 2023 there were different levels of 1.19
Now the new version 1.20 is another step
I send updates during the period of subscription only
No need to ask again and again. You paid in 2019, and received in 2019

Hi freakman,
You bought vArranger in 2014
In 2019, you paid 50€ and you well received updates and support emails during the year of subscription
I can see in the emails, you were very happy at this time about what you received for what you paid
If you want the update of 2024, you will need to pay for one year more
If you are happy with your vArranger version, then stay as is