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Started by stevehd, June 05, 2025, 12:01:47 PM

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stevehd

Can anyone advise how to adjust the latency when using the MS GS Wavetable synth option?  I have ASIO4all driver installed on the tablet but ver 1.16 does not seem to recognize it when opening the options/midiport menu.  It only shows the MS GS wavetable synth or a hard wired midi interface. The ASIO driver is recognized when using other VST apps so I know it is working.   THanks

nakeyer


Dan

Please buy vArranger and don't use not legal software
The new version is a lot better and without latency with the internal synth

nakeyer

Seems Steve have a problem with ASIO4ALL and MS GS Wavetable... Let him choose by himself what synth to use!...

Dan

I have worked 15 years to create a good vArranger software, and I am not happy when someone is using my software without buying it from me. This is even not legal.
We will not help such users here

v.muller

I would understand if someone wanted to try the program first before purchasing the official version, especially if there is no official demo or light version. Perhaps the existence of a free version with limited functionality could attract more new users. Similar to Avid Sibelius First, for example.

nakeyer

Quote from: Dan on June 11, 2025, 02:49:51 AMI have worked 15 years to create a good vArranger software, and I am not happy when someone is using my software without buying it from me. This is even not legal.
We will not help such users here
I have no any claims to your vArranger, but - again!!! The question was about latency in ASIO drivers!!! Be calm!! Seems you have a very sore imagination!....
And for "muller" - I think you are absolutely right! It's strange to pay money for .. a pig in a poke. :)

DjTony1981

I have a vArranger license since 2017, the only flaw is the poor updating. Dan (or whoever) does not seem to have any more desire to integrate new features, the project seems to have run aground now (not to say abandoned).

agaton

#8
Buy software and be happy !!! vArranger² is one very professional program, not a joke and this prehistorical  version 1.16 is maybe 1/16 from actual version. How to explain to you what's wrong with your configuration with ASIO4all drivers and vArranger², when this version 1.16 has only little bit structure and functions from actual vArranger² ? vArranger² is so complex, stable and good, that we make hardware Workstation and Arranger based on vArranger². It is the newest project:







haweneu

Hi Agaton,
very good News From you!

Has your TRANSAUDIO WA-L2 an enhanced Version of the new VA2?

Best regards
Werner

agaton

#10
It has the last version of vArranger². I am a Premium User all this years (50€ pro year) to be always up to date with the last software version, and it is full normally by the most software producers. TRANSAUDIO WA-L2 is one "Kraftpaket" with most powerful and last generation of CPUs, memory and storage, on specially configured Audio Windows, what is the most important thing for one Windows based musical instrument. In one word, it is one musical instrument (not computer) for professional use on stage or in studio.

haweneu

#11
Hi,
I understand! I use VA2 with my WERSI Spectra (with diy switches and potentiometer for VA2 in Front of lower manual = See attached picture) as Masterkeyboard and an Asus Vivo Pc Core i5. Sounds only generated with SD1000 and V3Sonority XXL Hardwaremodules. You Wrote in your picture of TRANSAUDIO WA-L2 that VA2 Play Audio Loop Styles. But VA 2 cannot Play this Type of Styles like Ketron Event, or I am wrong?

Mit freundlichen Grüßen
Werner

agaton

#12
I wrote that TRANSAUDIO WA-L2 can play Audio Loops (and Styles from vArranger2 with Audio Loops) !!!

haweneu

#13
Hello,
Sorry, but i dont know Styles for vArranger2 that have Audio Loops integrated.

Can you please explain Details?

Best regards
Werner

nakeyer

Quote from: agaton on June 27, 2025, 10:00:45 PMIt has the last version of vArranger². I am a Premium User all this years (50€ pro year) to be always up to date with the last software version, and it is full normally by the most software producers. TRANSAUDIO WA-L2 is one "Kraftpaket" with most powerful and last generation of CPUs, memory and storage, on specially configured Audio Windows, what is the most important thing for one Windows based musical instrument. In one word, it is one musical instrument (not computer) for professional use on stage or in studio.
Wow! Now - can you make something like that with GigLad arranger (https://deltarray.com)?

agaton

Quote from: haweneu on June 28, 2025, 06:08:23 AMHi,
I understand! I use VA2 with my WERSI Spectra (with diy switches and potentiometer for VA2 in Front of lower manual = See attached picture) as Masterkeyboard and an Asus Vivo Pc Core i5. Sounds only generated with SD1000 and V3Sonority XXL Hardwaremodules. You Wrote in your picture of TRANSAUDIO WA-L2 that VA2 Play Audio Loop Styles. But VA 2 cannot Play this Type of Styles like Ketron Event, or I am wrong?

Mit freundlichen Grüßen
Werner

TRANSAUDIO WA_L2 nutzt nur software Sound Engine, neben den Dans fabelhaften Genos 2 Sound Bank, da ist noch ein grosses SF2 Sound Pack (über 15GB samples) und verschiedene VST Instrumente. Nur das besste Computer hardware konfiguration ist gut genug (die neueste Intel Ultra 9 CPU Reihe, 5TB schnellsten NVM speicher Gen5 mit 14.000MB/sec, 96GB DDR5 PC6400 Arbeitsspeicher). Operative System ist ein Audio Windows 11 64Bit speziell bis zum kleinsten Detail, für Audio konfiguriert. Auch Audio Interface ist sehr "schnell". Nur so kann es mit kleinsten Latenz (0,7ms bis 1,4ms) gearbeitet werden, was für Live Gigs ein muss ist. vArranger spielt Styles änlich allen anderen hardware Keyboards, nur mit mehr zehr nützlichen Funktionen, aber Arranger hat nichts mit dem Audio Loops zu tun, das ist genau so bei hardware Keyboards. Dafür ist nur Sound Engine zuständig. Ein Style ist nur eine Gruppe kurzen Midi Sequenzen die Noten On/Off, Midi Controller und SysEx daten abspielt. Für Audio Loops sind, wie gesagt, Sound Engine in diesem Fall VST Instrumenten, zuständig !!! vArranger ist ein fabelhafte software arranger der ohne kleinsten Fehller sein Job macht, nur es soll richtig und voll ausgenützt werden.

Quote from: nakeyer on June 30, 2025, 05:22:42 PMWow! Now - can you make something like that with GigLad arranger ?

Bis vArranger ein Style Editor bekommt, kann es ein Software Yamaha Style Editor genutzt werden, übrigens der besste Style Editor den ich unter händen hatte "StyleMagic YA". Wir haben Giglad und haben ausführlich getestet, es ist Software noch im Entwicklung und ist, vor allem, für Live Gigs, nicht reif genug.

agaton

My mistake, it was in German.

Quote from: haweneu on June 28, 2025, 06:08:23 AMHi,
I understand! I use VA2 with my WERSI Spectra (with diy switches and potentiometer for VA2 in Front of lower manual = See attached picture) as Masterkeyboard and an Asus Vivo Pc Core i5. Sounds only generated with SD1000 and V3Sonority XXL Hardwaremodules. You Wrote in your picture of TRANSAUDIO WA-L2 that VA2 Play Audio Loop Styles. But VA 2 cannot Play this Type of Styles like Ketron Event, or I am wrong?

Mit freundlichen Grüßen
Werner

TRANSAUDIO WA_L2 uses only a software sound engine. In addition to Dan's fabulous Genos 2 sound bank, there's also a large SF2 sound pack (over 15GB of samples) and various VST instruments. Only the best computer hardware configuration will suffice (the latest Intel Ultra 9 CPU series, 5TB of the fastest Gen5 NVM storage with 14,000MB/sec, 96GB DDR5 PC6400 memory). The operating system is a Windows 11 64-bit audio system, configured down to the smallest detail for audio. The audio interface is also very "fast." This is the only way to operate with minimal latency (0.7ms to 1.4ms), which is a must for live gigs. vArranger plays styles similar to any other hardware keyboard, only with more useful features. However, the Arranger has nothing to do with audio loops, it's the same with hardware keyboards. That's the responsibility of the Sound Engine alone. A style is simply a group of short MIDI sequences that play note on/off, MIDI controllers, and SysEx data. As mentioned, sound engine, in this case VST instrument, are responsible for the audio loops. vArranger is a fantastic software arranger that does its job flawlessly; it just needs to be used correctly and to its full potential.

Quote from: nakeyer on June 30, 2025, 05:22:42 PMWow! Now - can you make something like that with GigLad arranger ?

Until vArranger gets a style editor, you can use a software Yamaha style editor. The best style editor I've ever used is "StyleMagic YA". We have Giglad and it is a software still under development and isn't quite ready for live gigs.



nakeyer

Do you think it is really a good idea to delete my messages?? Oh, yes! I know such kind of "democracy"  ;D  ;D  ;D