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NEW : VERSION 'NEXT'
« on: August 22, 2019, 10:36:53 PM »
Hello,

Since the last update, I am working hard on adding many interesting new features for vArranger, that I will post here from time to time.

As some of you like to get the most recent additions and want to receive intermediate updates more frequently, I have created a new possibility to subscribe to the "in between" updates, for an annual amount of 50€

Subscription link, only for official vArranger Users :

SUBSCRIBE NOW !

This will also helps me to continue the hard work  !

Thank you !

Dan
« Last Edit: August 23, 2019, 12:52:01 PM by Dan »

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« Reply #1 on: August 22, 2019, 10:41:34 PM »
The new Version 1.20 will contain :


- XF CHORD FORMAT SUPPORT : vArranger will display the XF format (YAMAHA) chords found in midifiles in the LYRICS and KARAOKE screens.
SONG CHORDS / EXPORT TO MIDIFILE : The chords presents in the grid in the SONG CHORDS screen will be exported in the midifile as XF chords events.


- CDG FORMAT SUPPORT (MP3+G) : vArranger can now display the karaoke CDG video associated to the audio song in the KARAOKE screen.
Usually 2 files are provided together with the same name in the same folder : MySong.MP3 and MySong.CDG
When you load the MP3 song in vArranger, you will have a surprise in the KARAOKE screen.

       


- OPTIONS / MASTER : The CHORD RECOGNITION VELOCITY THRESHOLD processing is now done BEFORE the MIDI IN GAIN stage.
This allows to get a better chord recognition, especially with a MIDI GUITAR.


- YAMAHA ARRANGERS IMPROVED SUPPORT : When playing a style in vArranger connected to your Yamaha XG / PSR / TRYOS / GENOS synth, it should sound now a lot better, especially with the correct INS file associated to the MIDI OUT.


- OPTIONS / ARABIC SCALE : Now works with Yamaha XG compatible synth too.


- SOUND EDIT / VELOCITY DEPTH : This allows to adjust the velocity slope of right and left tracks. A value of 64 means linear 1:1 slope. A value of 127 means the track will react 2 time more to the input velocity level. A value of 32 means the track will react 2 time less to the input velocity level.


- SOUND EDIT / VELOCITY OFFSET : This allows to add or subtract a constant value to the played velocity of right and left tracks. A value of 64 means no change. A value of 127 means the track will plays always at full velocity level (can be useful if you want to control the volume only with an expression pedal or a breath controller). A value of 54 means the track will react with the input velocity value less 20. (The negative offset is a new feature compared to the previous positive only velocity offset control)
The Velocity depth and offset adds a new level of expression. Some solo instruments can get more presence with a bit of positive offset, but, with a slower slope depth, you still have some dynamic control.


- AKAI APC MINI SUPPORT with LED FEEDBACK.


- The SONG VOLUME fader for AUDIO SONGS (MP3...) is now logarithmic and not linear, to follow the volume perception of the human ear.


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- Many more improvements, corrections and optimisations
« Last Edit: August 29, 2019, 11:39:13 AM by Dan »

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Re: NEW : VERSION 'NEXT'
« Reply #2 on: August 23, 2019, 05:46:03 PM »
Subscription executed, thank you Dan for your work

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Re: NEW : VERSION 'NEXT'
« Reply #3 on: August 23, 2019, 05:56:50 PM »
It's good to see that Dan keeps improving vArranger.   I have no problem paying for some new core features.   Are these upgrades only for those who subscribe?
 

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Re: NEW : VERSION 'NEXT'
« Reply #4 on: August 23, 2019, 08:19:29 PM »
XF CHORD FORMAT SUPPORT is fantastic news.
Can the XF Chords be read in from a Midi file directly into the Song Chord Window?

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Re: NEW : VERSION 'NEXT'
« Reply #5 on: August 24, 2019, 02:18:59 AM »
Dan,

I agree with most that lakere said.
To me, a single "feature" that would justify subscription 100% would be a true style mixer, which was available since early arrangers and sequencers over 20+ years ago.
Which allows assembling custom styles from the parts of  (almost*) any other style :)

Some other items that would interest me would be:
Octave changing in individual instruments and whole bars,
Several popular drum maps  that can be changed easily, possibly within re-designed drum mixer  (It is a bit flaky as it is)

There is a lot of room for improvements, but I feel there is a need for a breakthrough features to keep VA healthy and keep users in the loop. I do not mind "subscribing" but I need to know what I am in for :)







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Re: NEW : VERSION 'NEXT'
« Reply #6 on: August 24, 2019, 09:06:39 AM »
Hi Dan,

my only wish is save and restore of SD1000 effectsettings with a song or sound!

You promissed this many years ago and nothing happens!


I also have no problem paying for this feature, but not every year for features that i dont need!

best regards
Werner

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Re: NEW : VERSION 'NEXT'
« Reply #7 on: August 25, 2019, 11:41:51 AM »

Hi,

I have mixed feelings about this charge.   In principle its acceptable if something useful will be delivered.   The problem I have is that I no longer trust Dan to do the right thing by his customers.   He is extremely insulting to his customers in that he just ignores many of their requests for new or amended features - whether they are made on the web site or via private mail - and this is despte constant reminders by many people.    Unless, of course, it looks like he might sell another new licence when he is very helpul!

vArranger is missing some vital features (like registration memory) - and despite several of us asking for this - nothing ever happens and, indeed, there is no hint as to whether it will ever happen in most of lifetimes  (i.e. global warning might get us all first!).   

If there were some agreed plan as to what the charge would used for then it might be acceptable.   But if the charge is going to be used at the whim of Dan then its pointless.

So - if there were a published Project Plan then "possibly".   If not - forget it!

Barry

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Re: NEW : VERSION 'NEXT'
« Reply #8 on: August 25, 2019, 02:48:16 PM »
Hi BjayG,
i full  agree with you!

If there is a time plane with content what dan will implement in the future it could be very good for my decision to pay!

best regards
Werner

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Re: NEW : VERSION 'NEXT'
« Reply #9 on: August 25, 2019, 11:48:03 PM »
The next version and what it will include is not fully planned. I have opened the developments in many directions, and still have some work to complete to set the vArranger software to the next level.
The goal of the annual subscription is to select few users who likes to receive more intermediate updates during the year, for every little step rather than wait for the big step in a more long time. This also will be a little income for me to help me to continue the devs further. You can't imagine how much time I offer to the actual user base. I am sorry if I can't implement all good ideas as fast as we all want.
By the way, some good surprises are coming, keep reading this topic.

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Re: NEW : VERSION 'NEXT'
« Reply #10 on: August 27, 2019, 09:09:24 AM »
I would pay for the possibility of Audio drums and loops working in sync with arrangments.

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Re: NEW : VERSION 'NEXT'
« Reply #11 on: August 27, 2019, 10:52:38 AM »
Prepare your money :)

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« Last Edit: August 27, 2019, 04:42:05 PM by Dan »

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Re: NEW : VERSION 'NEXT'
« Reply #13 on: August 27, 2019, 04:44:12 PM »
Everyone his own story - I have some work to do to win 50€    ;D

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Re: NEW : VERSION 'NEXT'
« Reply #14 on: August 27, 2019, 07:35:29 PM »
Dan,
I do not think is about 50e. It is more about the message that people want to see some real progress / development for their money :)

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Re: NEW : VERSION 'NEXT'
« Reply #15 on: August 27, 2019, 10:11:50 PM »
I really thank you all for asking new features and everyone here is a true chance for me
vArranger would certainly not be at this level if users did not asked for more !

I have some work planned :)

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« Reply #16 on: August 28, 2019, 10:11:16 PM »
I long ago asked for the possibility of exporting and re-importing loaded styles with a yamaha-like structure (midi + CASM), to be able to modify them with an external sequencer .. of course I could have paid a little something to have it .. ::)

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Re: NEW : VERSION 'NEXT'
« Reply #17 on: August 29, 2019, 11:08:17 AM »

Dan,

If I thought that vArranger would improve meaningfully then I too would be willing (not sure thats really quite correct) to pay for the privilege. But we basically have no way of knowing what it is that you are doing or, indeed, whether you are doing anything at all in development terms.   

I don't believe it would correct for people to pay you 50 Euros without the knowledge as to whether they will get anything for it.  Or, alternatively, whether it will be completely irrelevent to them.   Its somewhat akin to randomly buying a ticket for a concert - but not knowing who (if indeed anyone) is playing - or whether it will be jazz, pop, or classical.

I think its up to you to prove that you can be trusted to do the right thing here.   This is not a hobby any more - people have paid large amounts of money so have a right to expect a return on their investment. 

So publish a list of plans for the next 12 months and allow people to decide whether to contribute.   If not - then I personally wouldn't touch it with a bargepool.

Barry

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Re: NEW : VERSION 'NEXT'
« Reply #18 on: August 29, 2019, 11:24:49 AM »
Most users here received free updates during 10 years
This topic only talk to people who think that the updates were relevant, and want to receive them in a more frequent time
By the way, I publish here from time to time the intermediate news, so everyone can see if they are relevant for him

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« Reply #19 on: August 29, 2019, 03:23:08 PM »
Yes Dan, I understand you make en plan for continuous updates and for the customers who don't subscribe the plan the update will be annual, I'm right ?


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« Reply #20 on: August 29, 2019, 03:37:14 PM »
Dan,

Your comments do not make sense - unless I have misunderstood.

There is rarely such a thing as a new full version as far as I can recall - and many people, including me, just say to you "can I have the latest version?"  (either via email or on the forum) whenever we want them - and you just send it without question.   

So are you now  saying that these previously free intermediate updates are now chargeable and that if we don't pay then we have wait for major updates.   As far as I can see the only reason to want to pay for these intermediate updates is if you know what is coming in advance.   Actually have no issue with payment at all as long as it is clear what we are getting.

I totally confused (as usual - so nothing new there then!) - so can you please clarrify what we would get for our 50Euros.

Thnaks
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« Reply #21 on: August 29, 2019, 03:52:00 PM »
First post of Dan:
As some of you like to get the most recent additions and want to receive intermediate updates more frequently, I have created a new possibility to subscribe to the "in between" updates, for an annual amount of 50€

 What I have understood : Changes will come as usual from times to times for all users ... but ...
... for those who are too eager to wait for next official and formal delivery, they have to subscribe to get INTERMEDIATE releases...

Is that right?

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« Reply #22 on: August 30, 2019, 08:33:15 PM »
I do not personally request too many new features.
I just want things to work as they should.

As I wrote many times before:

1) Show voice list and style list after program start

https://www.varranger.com/vforum/index.php/topic,2938.msg22706.html#msg22706

2) Show the selected voice after selecting the channel.

https://www.varranger.com/vforum/index.php/topic,3739.msg29852.html#msg29852

3) changing of harmony notes after changing chord
https://www.varranger.com/vforum/index.php/topic,578.msg28584.html#msg28584


Then I can think about further financial support for the project.

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« Reply #23 on: August 31, 2019, 12:46:38 PM »
Sun,

I think you need to let Dan answer himself...

You (Dan) said:
What I have understood : Changes will come as usual from times to times for all users ... but ...
... for those who are too eager to wait for next official and formal delivery, they have to subscribe to get INTERMEDIATE releases...

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Whereas if you read mine I said:
There is rarely such a thing as a new full version as far as I can recall - and many people, including me, just say to you "can I have the latest version?"  (either via email or on the forum) whenever we want them - and you just send it without question.   

These 2 statements are in direct disagreement and it needs clarrifying by Dan - coz I after 6 years of owning vA - I don't know the answer.  Are we saying that we can no longer have the latest update like we previously did without paying?

As far as I can see - the only jutification for paying 50Euros in advance is to know what we will be getting - because based on previous experience there is no discernible logic as to what gets developed next...

Barry

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« Reply #24 on: August 31, 2019, 03:10:07 PM »
Hi Dan,

I discover in this forum that to get the latest interim updates more frequently, we have to subscribe a subscription for an annual amount of 50 € via a Paypal link. this to help you continue your hard work.
What will happen to those who have not subscribed? Will you continue to send us a link to receive the latest version and how will we be notified, will there be an anniversary date, do I currently have on my computer the latest version of Varranger ie to say the V1.19.02 ? :D

Claudio


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« Reply #25 on: September 03, 2019, 11:10:01 AM »
HERE WE GO AGAIN  ...

Dan just ignores us all ...

This is is pretty rubbish support - I have actually received several private emails over the years by vA users that are fairly annoyed by this attitude.

Its not rocket science...

Barry

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« Reply #26 on: September 03, 2019, 08:02:38 PM »
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« Reply #27 on: September 03, 2019, 08:33:03 PM »
I am still not sure what to do when this major update will be ready...
By the way, I have added so much incredible news in the NEXT version that it will not be released very soon ... Better for you to subscribe and get frequent "intermediate" updates if you like to always have the latest improved vArranger

v.muller.  1 and 3 can be done...  2) I don't know... this is a very old code... need to rewrite everything...

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« Reply #28 on: September 04, 2019, 07:10:38 AM »
Hi Dan,

Many thanks for the reply.

Best Regards
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« Reply #29 on: September 06, 2019, 12:21:19 AM »
Vaclav,

1) Show voice list and style list after program start =>  Done

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« Reply #30 on: September 06, 2019, 07:19:06 AM »
That's great. Thank you.

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« Reply #31 on: September 11, 2019, 08:08:00 PM »
Hi Dan, this is my new request:

When i'm playing in SD1000 configuration and then load a other file format style (eg. yamaha), vA2 "optimize" some program voices for SD1000 module..Is it possible to "edit" this mapping to make a user's choice of program voices to optimize?

Thanks.

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« Reply #32 on: September 11, 2019, 08:51:56 PM »
Creating a custom mapping is something interesting, but will not be done very soon, however, if you give me your mapping, I can put it in vArranger so everyone will profit of it

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« Reply #33 on: September 11, 2019, 10:12:01 PM »
Temporarily, you could add a checkbox in setup form where you ask the user to optimize programs changes..it would be useful when I import styles yamaha with program changes mapped already for SD1000 ..

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« Reply #34 on: September 12, 2019, 09:04:23 AM »
Another feature will be the possibility of mute/unmute a channel simply quickly tapping (for touchscreen) or quickly click on these..I'm using a windows tablet with 10.1" screen, and MUTE/SOLO buttons are very small and very hard to use..

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« Reply #35 on: September 12, 2019, 09:32:18 AM »
You can assign the buttons ON/OFF to a midi controller like the Korg NanoKontrol2
Or use the TouchOSC app, that is almost ready in the NEXT version :)

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« Reply #36 on: September 12, 2019, 09:59:11 AM »
I purposely bought a tablet just to avoid using nanokontrol2..Anyway, the program change checkbox would be more urgent .. let me know if it's possible and how long you can develop it ..

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« Reply #37 on: September 12, 2019, 10:04:59 AM »
I already answered :
Creating a custom mapping is something interesting, but will not be done very soon, however, if you give me your mapping, I can put it in vArranger so everyone will profit of it
I don't understand your checkbox

What I need, is that you say : for this style, with this program change and the SD1000, it sound better than this one, or any other thing you discover, and I add it to the vArranger

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« Reply #38 on: September 12, 2019, 10:16:54 AM »
Sorry if I wasn't clear..

I meant, if there is a portion of code in vArranger for which a style is loaded eg. Yamaha set a "sound that sounds better (optimized for the SD1000)", I would like you to implement a check that bypass this for procedure ..

A mine mapping at the moment I can't give it to you because I should listen to hundreds of voices and look for the "best" one from Yamaha and SD1000, it would be useful as requested at the beginning, a form to customize this "optimization" of voices ..

Greetings..and thank you ..

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« Reply #39 on: September 12, 2019, 10:19:56 AM »
In the NEXT version, you can bypass the remapping if you have a INS file declared and linked to the MIDI OUT, and it has the sound present in the INS file
Exp  you use a Tyros2, and have the Tyros2 INS FILE linked to the midi out, then all sounds present in this INS file will not be remapped

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« Reply #40 on: September 12, 2019, 10:28:56 AM »
..in the meantime .. I am forced to play style yamaha in which instead of the preset "PRECISION (bass)" vArranger puts "DEEP BASS" on me and instead of "SLOWSTRINGS" puts me "STRINGS ENS." .. this is the problem. .because the "MIDI EVENTS EDITING + SAVING MODIFICATIONS" function would be very useful in the style ..

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« Reply #41 on: September 12, 2019, 10:31:56 AM »
You can still change the sound manually and SAVE SONG
If you think one style sound bad, please sent it to me, and I will try it on my SD1000 with your suggested voices

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« Reply #42 on: September 13, 2019, 03:22:26 AM »
I think €50 per year isn’t bad..
Dan you should look at bitwig, they are having a subscription system like this..
You buy bitwig, and get a subscription with it for all updates during the first year..

After that it stops, but whenver you see an update you want, you an buy a new subscription, for a whole year of updates, and you ge the latest version..

Maybe this allows you to spend more time on v-arranger
I am hoping multipads (espescially midi ones) will be part of one of these updates..

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« Reply #43 on: September 13, 2019, 06:08:13 AM »
Yes, and their subscription is 159€ :)
https://www.bitwig.com/en/17/new-license-model.html

I put it at 50€ so most of users will still be in the party, I hope...

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« Reply #44 on: September 13, 2019, 07:44:01 AM »
You can still change the sound manually and SAVE SONG
If you think one style sound bad, please sent it to me, and I will try it on my SD1000 with your suggested voices

I've modified the patches with OMB and now style sounds right without "optimization".. it would be useful if vA2 also had the possibility of having a micro editing form for editing MIDI events without losing the CASM ..

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« Reply #45 on: September 15, 2019, 02:12:36 PM »
My opinion may not be popular with some, but I have been with Dan since almost day one.  I have seen an amazing transition from a good program to the best, and all of this has not cost me an additional dime. The idea of compensating and encouraging Dan has been brought up in the past.  It is a sticky wicket because some have just come on board, while others, like myself have been receiving the benefits of thousands of hours of programming.

Whatever method is used, I believe it is only fair to pay something for Dan's time and expertise.  It is not like the present program isn't was the price of admission, even without future enhancements.

Just my opinion.
Bernie

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« Reply #46 on: September 15, 2019, 02:58:25 PM »
Thank you Bernie

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« Reply #47 on: September 15, 2019, 08:01:17 PM »
You are right Bernie. And if we considere the price at the beginning, 350€ was for vArranger fonctionnal only with the SD2 Ketron and by compare with the last version there are a lot more features now
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« Reply #48 on: September 16, 2019, 10:38:27 AM »
I did say a few years ago to Dan ask a a small amount for the updates
the meaning was an arranger for the sd serie.
But so many people have asked for them private to progam the arranger
even better then the Yamaha, Korg, Roland enc. Alway' not asking for a price!!!

If You order someone to paint Your house is that for free?
I,m happy to pay the 50€ a year and get this stuff

jos

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« Reply #49 on: September 16, 2019, 11:20:41 AM »
My personal consideration, Dan has requested collaboration a few times to help him, with small donations, I would like to know how many of you have helped Dan by sending money? So I think it is right that we help the program develop with 50 euros a year. Thanks

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« Reply #50 on: September 16, 2019, 11:25:06 AM »
In over 25 yrs of owning most arrangers, I can't help but thing Dan has dug a hole for himself in one respect. He has always been very helpful and willing to entertain improvement requests, many of which implemented.  However, there comes a point when vArranger has become, basically, a mature program and still some are bent out of shape because a particular specific improvement request hasn't been readily addressed.  If you multiply that by many, each requiring thought about compatibility and time involved in programming, you can see how impossible it would be for one man-for free even.
How much personal attention have you ever received from the big boys, with their R&D departments.  I may have received minor bug fixes, or even a few meaningful upgrades, but have spent thousands of dollars on the latest models too.

Let's give Dan a little credit for being open, honest, and willing to accommodate, but to expect the world for free is unrealistic.

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« Reply #51 on: September 16, 2019, 11:28:24 AM »
I have, but I certainly think it time to send one again, considering that was many years and revisions ago.
Bernie

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« Reply #52 on: September 16, 2019, 02:35:47 PM »
Hi,

In principle I have no problem with paying even a yearly update charge.    But lets be clear - we have to have some way of knowing what we will get for the money. 

In particular vA seems to have drifted away from the concept of being a real time arranger keyboard replacement into something which, judging by some people's requirements, is more akin to a glorified backing track creator.   Its nice that vA allows you create all manner of midifiles and backing tracks that some people use it for - but please don't let it lose its primary purpose and add missing things such as registrtaion menu, style auditiong, and the real time stuff etc.

This is a great program - but with a bit of focus it could be even greater.

Barry

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« Reply #53 on: September 16, 2019, 03:13:46 PM »
Barry,
Being more of a live style guy, I have to agree.

Bernie

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« Reply #54 on: September 16, 2019, 03:22:45 PM »


...but please don't let it lose its primary purpose and add missing things such as registrtaion menu, style auditiong, and the real time stuff etc...


Barry


vArranger² has "Registration Menu", every User Sound is one Registration !!! What is "the real time stuff", please be concrete.

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« Reply #55 on: September 17, 2019, 12:16:24 PM »
Hi all,
i agree with BjayG!
Va2 is no full replacement for an Hardware Arranger! It lacks some features like effect dsp settings with sound or arrangement!
I use VA2 only with SD1000 as main soundmodule and miss some years the load and save effect settings with sound!
Dan has promissed me this function some years ago!

best regards
Werner

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« Reply #56 on: September 17, 2019, 02:25:22 PM »
If you use vA² with VST instruments, than you have the best
VST Effects on the world !!! vA² is one software Arrangeur, that
open a huge world of the best studio VST Effects to use it with
the best VST sounds. The best hardware Arrangeur is without
slightest chance towards one vA² on adequate audio-configured
machine (hardware, software and system) !!! With all new vA²
functions, which Dan make to time, it will be even much better
from day to day.
« Last Edit: September 17, 2019, 02:28:29 PM by agaton »

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Re: NEW : VERSION 'NEXT'
« Reply #57 on: Today at 09:52:17 AM »
Hi Agaton,
you are right if you use only software soundgeneration!

But many VA2 users use only hardware soundgenerators! And VA 2 was original developed for Ketron SD2 and Dan then changed to SD1000 some years ago! This was the time i bought VA2!

But Dan has never implemented full DSP functions for the SD1000!!

best regards
Werner

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« Reply #58 on: Today at 11:54:34 AM »
It is too pity to use so one powerful program like vArranger² only
as Ketron SD2 Player. Too pity !!! It is a past tense. So looks Trans
Audio system with vArranger² as Workstation and Arrangeur i the
same time. One very, very powerful sound system, with thousands
and thousands best sounds and effects !!!




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« Reply #59 on: Today at 12:06:40 PM »
Hi,
I do not understand the whole discosion.
Why should we pay for development.
Yamaha, Roland, Ketron, Korg and so on are spending millions on development and eventually launching a new key on the market.
For this we pay, if something is wrong then the manufacturer brings a new firmware upgrade (free of charge, of course)
Dan brings out a completely open Varranger2 and it's clear what's coming from the beginning.
Dan should finish the Varranger2 in a version that costs 349.- €.
Everyone writes here what he would like, anyone can do that and should then be able to pay for it.
The Varranger2 is definitely worth the money, but it can not be that we should pay for development.
When Dan adds new things he can ask for it if someone wants it.
Everyone can buy their own hardware and nobody has to pay for it.
But it must be done once order in the system,
especially for updates and the naming of the available updates with exact information which version is out and who can have it then.
It's no wonder everyone writes me the latest version.
If nobody knows when what comes.

Regards
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« Reply #60 on: Today at 01:23:47 PM »
I think that there is a false problem. Dan asks money for intermediate updates (as a prerelease ) and not for the big update (sum of the prereleases).
And I think it's more like a donation to support.
The release of the big update (1.20-1.21...) will be free.

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« Reply #61 on: Today at 01:33:39 PM »
I think that there is a false problem. Dan asks money for intermediate updates (as a prerelease ) and not for the big update (sum of the prereleases).
Yesssssss and that is good so !!!