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Started by ovation99, April 29, 2015, 07:56:54 PM

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ovation99

Hi,
Can anybody point me in the right direction?
I was wondering if there is available a complete set of SF or VST's that I could use in place of my Ketron SD2.
It would make it so more convenient to just use my PC instead of having to hook up the SD2.
Please note, I am a complete newbie as far as SF and VST's are concerned, so please excuse me if this seems a dumb  :-[question.

Thanks for your help

agaton

Your question is OK. There are a few sampled Ketron SD2,
but no one has sound quality and editing possibilities like
SD2. It can be made, and it can be also better as SD2, this
is no dilema, but nobody made it so serious till now.

ovation99

Thanks Agaton, looks like I am stuck with connecting the SD2, for now at least.

Phil

I do hope this is an 'open goal'  and was seriously hoping on the availability of the TA Sound Engine. The sounds are reported to be superior to the Ketron SD1000. Allthough VST can offer oven more superior sound, in my opinion the searching for the right sound amidst the great availabilities, the high cost price (for each engine you often have to pay) completely takes away my fun in browsing through sounds and playing a melody that pops in my head as I hear the sound. So allthough I my allways play my Hauptwork churchorgan VST and must confess that the VB3 (that Dan recommended me) sounds much better than the one of Native instruments and takes away my desire to play on a keyB organ, I am really in search of good Sound Engine, so Agaton: I hope you have not given up and still have the strength to continue development of your TA Sound Engine :-X :-X :-X ??? If not please state , since I am postponing my purchase of a SD1000 and varranger2 (since I do not have a complete sound library to play the styles) just because I am waiting on your work. I am even, in time ;) willing to pay for additional soundpacks - since browsing through useful sounds is a pure joy for me. I also see that organ makers like Lowrey and Wersi boast with their preset: Lowrey giving 10 organ presets for every 10 acoustic presets and they boast in having over 4000 presets combinations. I think the imput of a soundengineer in generating alternate presets in vArranger would really be helpful since I for one can appreciate the beauty of sounds but am unable to create of shape them. So I can hear a pop song, know there is a piano in it, but am unable to shape the available piano sound to sound exactly like the one in that pop song. In the 2015 Korg Kronos they have there named the presets exactly like the name of the corresponding pop song and have made sure the sounds sound exactly alike. So Agaton: is you TA sound engine still coming, and how do you see my last statement concerning the (song)presets???

agaton

#4
Yes Phil, TA Sound Engine still coming. All sounds are sampled and all
samples are full edited (sample start, sample end, loop start, loop end,
compress, x-fades and so long... and so long... They are in its Sound
Programs (first in Multisamples or layers). Only what is to do and what
I doing to time, when I time have is Modulation Matrix. This Modulation
Matrix must be compatibel with Sound Editor of vArranger2 for simple
and fast editing of Sound Programs in vArranger2. It is a lot of work !!!
The last part of the work (Modulation Matrix) is very tedious work, but
must be finished. I am allone in work with samples and sounds, because
it is so one job that I have to make allone from begining to the end. But
I work also in studio as ton-engineer  and musician, and I haven't so much
time, only on TA Sound Engine to do.

I have one technicaly based statement about sound presets. Producer of
hardware workstations are not so flexibel, they make their sounds always
from model to model with same fouls. Roland and Ketron are very good
with sounds of natural instruments, but synth sounds are not the first class,
Korg make all but nothing excelent although the best synthesis in their
arrangers, all sounds are so one middle thing, Yamaha have very good DA
converter on their arrangers and workstations and cause of that, sounds
better as other instruments with same quality of samples. We not need 
4.000 sound programs, we need maybe 200 or 300 but excelent sounds,
and this excellent sounds you can use in every pop song they will be good !!!
I try to make so one Sound Engine for vArranger2, with very good 512
sounds (or ten or twenty more). But I can't clone me two, three, four
time to be faster, please be patient, I need still a little bit time to finished
Modulation Matrix for this excellent sounds to be perfect !!!  You have heard
part of sounds from TA Sound Engine in demos on vArranger2 Facebook site.
Whole sound program contigent of TA Sound Engine will be with the same
quality like sounds in this demos, and user will make sound presets (Right
or Left sounds on vArranger2) very fast and without any problems, because
the basic sounds are high quality sounds. The best thing is, that this TA Sound
Engine will be not expensive, it will be cheaper as one normal VST instrument.

ovation99

Wow Agaton, I can't wait for that !!!
Keep up the great work you are doing

Al

Phil

I can see by the late hours Agaton that you really are trying, so please let me not rush/ hurry you :-[ :-[ :-[. I must be patient and not doubtfull :-[. Much succes with your modulation matrix 8). You mention that Yamaha has superior DA convertors. I suppose that a soundcard has DA convertors too, if so Agaton can you recommend a soundcard with excellent DA convertors, preferrable USB connected and this (you know me by now) at acceptable price?

4partmusic

Phil,

I think technically you are asking what is the best audio interface. Sound cards anymore are kind of a misnomer because they don't really produce sounds themselves per se.  I have heard that the FocusRite products are pretty good and reasonably priced for what you get but I haven't used them. I use a Tascam 1800 running through audio monitor speakers.   Sound quality is pretty good.   This link on Sweetwater is a start for researching.  Read some of the reviews and see if that helps.

http://www.sweetwater.com/shop/computer-audio/audio_interfaces/

Thanks,

Terry

agaton

#8
Quote from: Phil on May 01, 2015, 08:35:44 AM... Agaton can you recommend a soundcard with excellent DA convertors, preferrable USB connected and this (you know me by now) at acceptable price?
4partmusic has wrote about one good Audio Interface (Focusrite). Focusrite has very good AD/DA converters with excelent S/N Ratio and Dynamic Rate for this price segment, but it has not Multiclient ASIO Drivers, and that can be in Live setup, a big problem. To say anything concrete about Audio Interface and AD/DA converters I must know, what is "resonable price" for you, because the price diapason is huge. I prefered anything from RME, but that has adequate price. When you will to have realy best quality Audio Interface with excelent AD/DA converters and fastest and stablest ASIO Driver, than is RME unavoidable. With USB Interface from newest genaration are FireFace 802, Fireface UFX, Fireface UC, Fireface UCX, Babyface and Babyface Professional and all of them are ultra fast USB High speed Audio Interfaces.  I don't know, how much money you will spend for one Audio Interface, and it will be good to write that, than I can advise you concrete

Phil

After reading up to get some basic knowledge of Modulation Matrices (while other of us have actually cracked their heads in modulating sounds all day ::)) I am happy to get some advice of those who have hands-on experience in sounds and soundsdesign. I have dusted of my Bohm and once again hooked up to my computer to be once again utterly frustrated  :'( by the nagging installation processes to get everything to work. It is precisely for this reason I was charmed by the V-arranger2 & Ketron SD1000 and of the upcomming TA Sound-engine: ease of use!!!. And boy, the learning curve to get the vB3 setup, was so frustrating (only in the end did I realise that with a right click a midi-learn function was available, that I nearly decided to sell everything and just buy a Wersi Pegasus WIng with second keyboard and bass. But I am just holding on to try out the V-arranger with TA Sound-engine and if I cannot learn this quickly with a big touch-screen attached to it, then  >:( >:( >:(. What are your thoughts Agaton of the Native Instruments Audio 6: this sound card should have Multiclient Audio Drivers and has Cirrus Logic converters, and Mr Agaton - as you know allready  :-\ I do not know what that means in the real world ??? ??? ???, but the people in the reviews hail this cheaper soundcard and claim it is far superior than its price suggests. As you know by now: I don't believe everything I read  ;D . And Mr. Agaton what sound design information do you have  of the Wersi Pegasus Wing (2 manual + vass) should the vArranger2 with TA Sound Engine not be easy enough for me to (learn to) operate?

Phil

p.s. Thanks Terry, for your kind advice!!!

Phil

ps Agaton: I guess around 200 euro for a sound card feels enough for me...

agaton

Native Instruments Audio 6 is good Audio Interface, and it will be make its job, but
you wrote about Audio Interface with excelent DA / AD Converter. Cause of that I
wrote about RME Interfaces. Audio 6 is good, but too far of "excelent" !!! Than is
maybe better to buy one Presonus 22VSL, or one used Presonus 44VSL, the best
solution, which has much better MicPreamps (XMAX) and better AD/DA converter as
Audio 6. With Presonus 44VSL you don't need to use mixer, because 44VSL has
mixer which is like Presonus StudioLive mixer, wit same effects, same EQ pro every
channel, and you have 4 Inputs, and 4 Outputs. When you play as One Man Band
than is this mixer inough for you. The Presonus Audio Interfaces are very stable,
and it is very important for Live gigs.

Don't worry about use of TA Sound Engine. You will be control TA Sound Engine
with amazing vArranger2 software and its commands. You will be use it very, very
good and in a half hour you will be "The big Boss". It is no any problem, TA Sound
Engine is Sample Content in SF2 format (Sample or Sound Program). You will be
use it better as one hardware sound modul. vArranger2 has total control about TA
Sound Engine.

I make whole audio systems based on vArranger2. This systems has many controls
(physial), for Style Part than for mixer etc... etc...

Conclusion is that you don't need to be angry about use of TA Sound Engine, this is
realy the best way to play with vArranger2. Dan has made this vArranger Synthesizer
which has more and better functions, as most hardware arrangers on the market.

Phil

How about the RME Fireface UC: USB connection, 8 analog outputs (so i can direct the low tones/ instruments to different speakers than the high ones. Since I have bad experiences with second hand (they allways brake on me) I though it better to opt for a RME with less outputs than a Presonus, since I am deducting from your statements that the RME is better quality.

So what setup,make and model of speakers will do justice to the RME soundcard mr Agaton, mr Terry and other sound experts? I suppose the active speakers are the better choice nowadays? I do not need a high output speakers(since it is only for home use (lroom = L-shaped room of about 70 square meters in size with a height of 2,70 m) and I don' t really like loud music. 8) 8) 8). My suggested budget = 4x500 euro

agaton

Yes. RME Fireface UC or UCX (better couse of TotalMix FX with DSP in UCX which has LowCut, 3-Band Full Parametric EQ, Compressor and Auto Leveler) has  much more quality as Presonus Interfaces. RME ist state of art, because it is only one wich has ASIO Drivers direct brand in DSP of Interface and this Drivers are very, ver fast and 100% stable on minimum latencies. It has also very best Mic Preamps, one of best dynamic Range and THD. RME is one professional audio interface. New Firefaces are combined FireWire and USB.

About Active PA system (loudseakers), there were many good models of Active PA Systems. When You need this active system only for home use, and your budget is 2.000 euro than first what you have to testing is Bose L1 Compact. This is one portable Line Array System, andu you need 2 of them. Price is about 1.000 euro for one. The sound... the sound must you hear, it can't be explained. This sound of Bose Systems is completely new and it is not central like by other conventional PA Systems, it is in whole room with same level to hear. The sound wht you hear is realy from 20Hz to 20kHz. Simple test it (2 x L1 Compact Systems) and you will hear what I mind.  That wil bé a first choice for you, with budget of 2.000 euro. It is the best quality in this price range !!!

Phil

Just to satisfy my curiousity Agaton; what kind (Make and Model) of Active Speakers would you recommend if money was not an issue: bearing in mind that the very low tones of the church organs will probably use a different channel than the higher tones: like this I know if I can upgrade (and use a good pair of headphones while waiting (which headphones do you recommend?) or best keep dreaming of winning the lottery ;D ;D ;D

agaton

How big is the space for which you need active
PA system ?  Is this the same living room or... ?

Phil

Yes indeed mr. Agaton :D :D :D.

The reason I would like to know is that I like to play the churchorgan through Hauptwerk playing pipes ranging from 1" to 32": They advice playing different sets of pipes through different sets of channels and speakers. I think I read somewhere that most living rooms do not have the physical dimensions to play a 32" pipe adequate (I do not the status on my living room: the longest part of my living room is 14m, the widest part is 6m, L-shaped, highest part 3,20m  and lowest 2,70m). If the 'golden standard' speaker set (on different) channels is feasable I may consider to skip the Bose L1 compact (which recieves very good reviews  accept maybe for the low tones and a little cluttered midtone range that can be offset by an equalizer) and buy the 'golden standard' speaker system bit by bit and just choose a superior headphoneset for the time being  (which make and model, and can I use the headphone jacks in the RME Fireface UCX adequate or do I use a different system for the headphone all together) since I mostly will play with headphones anyway. I am curious which kind you advice as I know you can buy a nice car for the price of some very expensive (for me at least  :-[)speakers...

Dan

I am very very curious of how this small module can sound

http://hifimediy.com/U2-DAC

It is low cost, it has a very good DAC converters.  ASIO drivers.

It should sound good, but what latency can we get? Maybe perferct !

vArranger can use your PC headphones out as the sound card, and it already sound good.

I am curious to see if this small USB addition can improve the sound a lot.

Dan

Phil

ps mr Agaton: please disregard my last question on the RME Fireface UCX as you have allready stated that it contains the very best of Mic Preamps ::) 8) :o ;D. All my earlier questions remain.

Phil

ps2 mr Dan:the  Hifimediy Sabre U2 Asynchronous DAC seems like a cheap first start before investing 1200€ in the RME Fireface UCX. Of course I need to look to mr Agaton to ask if that card is any better than a standard sound card and could be used as a preliminary step before investing 20x more in the RME and superior output media. I do know I once listened to a headphone of 300€ and a soundcard of the same price while playing on a hauptwerk organ: there was no doubt in my mind that it was a much better set than my own (and actually brought tears of joy into my eyes). The wife of that man confessed to my wife that she though he was crazy (in his obsession of organs and good sound), and I think my wife thinks the same of me. Since I only play music for my own enjoyment a more than superior sound quality means very much to me and is worth the extra money (if I have it), maybe it is a way to compensate for my more than inferior musical abilities :-[. :-[, just as I love to listen to those musicians that do have the gift to play beautifully: the joy they can bring to me is in my opinion fully worth the money that has to be payed to listen to them. So if you are willing and ablemr. Agaton please let us know your opinion in what is the best speaker setup for me and what would be an excellent headphone

Phil

ps3 thanks mr Dan for your more than valid contribution, since I now play my hauptwerk on a stock sound card and 30€ headphones and it does give me much joy (allthough no tears in my eyes or relaxation of my muscles). It is very important to know the best options in every price category.

It was for the same reason I am very interested in your program: the organs that I dream of costs between 30.000€ and 70.000€ and therefore unattainable for me (allthough I very recently learned of the new and much cheaper Wersi Pegasus Wing Duo). Your program forms a valid alternative that can be upgraded as the budget allows it. I therefore would be curious to hear from mr Agaton or any other sound wizard how  good this Hifimediy Sabre U2 Asynchronous DAC really is (together with my other questions of course)

Dan

If you just want to play organ, you don't need 18 inputs and premaps and 24 outputs :)

Only 1 good quality stereo out.

If you use a headphone, there is also the headphone amplifier often included in the soundcard that change the sound a bit.

This hifimediy is not for musicians.  only for hifi people who like to listen their music with better quality than their laptop headphones out

But maybe it can give good sounds for us too?

Phil

The inputs for me seem unnecessary. It is the outputs I am eying (not for the Hammond organ as the traditional Hammond speaker in my opinion was absolutely not hifi). The haupwork people do offer multichannel outputs if the audio card can handle it. Do you think that a normal setup can adequatly produce the sound of a 32" bass and a 1" flute tone of a church organ?

Dan

I don't think you need multiple outputs on your sound card.
There is some 2.1 audio systems that can split the sound. The trebles for the speakers, and bass for the subwoofer.
There is many kind of speakers.  For live sound, for studio work, or hifi  depending of the power you need

Phil

I hear your mr Dan and I thank you for your contribution, as I do agree with you that cheaper solutions always should be tried out first. Their is no doubt that a cheap car will more than adequately will you to your destination, you do not have to drive a Rolls Royce. Yet I do believe that a Rolls Royce has its benifits for those who can afford it. I guess we will have to wait on Agaton if the 'Golden standard setup' (=RME soundcard+.???) will be an added value for vArranger2 in combination with the TA sound engine. As I do not own a Ketron SD1000 I do not know if this module will sound any better with high quality equipment (the audio jacks of this module certainly do not look top high end, but looks may decieve), listening to your demo on You Tube through my stock soundcard and cheap headphone definately give me much fun: should the TA sound engine never comes to birth I will gladly will by the Ketron SD1000 with vArranger2 - of course I am still hoping and counting on the development of the TA sound engine by mr Agaton, but I believe the modulation matrixing is taking a lot of time and I am therefor still waiting patiently. I think it is precisely this increase in sound quality that could make this TA sound engine worthy of upgrading with an excellent sound card and excellent speakers, while less superior sounds in a module would not benefit from these enhancements. Of course I have never heard the TA sound engine and I am certainly not a sound expert. But I like what I am hearing on the facebook demos of the TA sound engine. I believe mr. Agaton is the person to answer the question if these high end hifi solutions have any benefit for the musician. Weather this benefit is actually worth the extra money, I believe is a question to be answered by the person who is buying it.

agaton

Yes, RME UCX ist one of the best smaller Audio Interfaces on the market !!!
Dynamic range, THD, S/N Ratio etc... are specifcations  which say how god
or wors is one Audio Interface. Also minimal Latncy time is one parameter
which say us how fast is one Audio Interface and is it predestinated for live
audio processing. But for this minimal latency is also PC performace very
important. RME Fireface UCX has two very good MicPreamp in studio quality.
But the question is do you need so high quality audio interface. Dan wrote to
you that you don't need so many outputs and it is right. You need more outs
only when you on live performance, have to send main signal to monitoring
active speakers or to few parallel PA systems. It is right that quality of audio
signal is better on good audio interface, but for that you must have also very
good PA system to hear this difference.
Your question about one very good active PA system for your living room when
2.000 euro is not the limit I can answer again with one Bose System, for example
2 x Bose L1 Model II system with B2 bass subwoofer, price about 4.000 euro.
It has amazing sound, specific in so small spaces like your living room. When
you wish to have very best of Bose system than you need nor T1 Tone Match
Audio Engine from Bose. This is processor for L1 Model II System. You can
also double the subwoofer when you wont more bass. Read all of that on Boses site.

Phil

Thanks for you info mr Dan and mr Agaton. I can than safely buy the RME babyface and save 700€. The Bose L1 model II with  tonematch is 2900€. But my first dream come true is the TA sound engine ::) ::)

Lylo

I'm sorry but I don't think the L1 Bose is a good choice for a home use.
It's a marvelous system but for stage, buy this system only for home is the same buying a Ferrari for go to the supermarket one time in week.
Or the home is a castle with rooms big as a gymnasium.
For home a small system as this one http://www.ld-systems.com/fr/systemes-sono-complets/dave-8-xs-systeme-sono-compact-actif-8-pouces is adequat and not expensive.
For more bass presence you can buy Dave 10 or Dave 12 http://www.ld-systems.com/fr/systemes-sono-complets

agaton

#29
Thats right !!! LD Dave 8 is very, very good and cheap. I have 4 Dave 12
Systems, But Phil wrote that he has 2.000 Euro budget for one home PA
System. Cause of  that I wrote about Bose L1 Compact. He want very good
quality, and Bose is a top quality system.



@Phil

Bose L1 model II with  Tonematch is very, very high quality, but it is
not 2.900 Euro, becase you need 2 x L1 model II for stereo sound !!!
Cause of that is better 2 x Bose L1 Compact, you don't need so much
power for one living room. RME Babyface is also high quality audio
interface and it is enough for you. The new RME Babyface Pro is nor better !!!

Phil

Thanks mr Agaton, mr Dan, mr Terry and mr Lylo for your honest and valuabel contributions.

The fact is that I need to put a second sound card in my 24 Gb ram pc (4 core Xeon 2.0GHz since my family has 'seased' this pc as it is hooked on to my 48" LED tv. Currently if I put on my headphones I am forced to listen to whatever the soundcard is playing as I cannot seperate the channels. Of course I can wait until everybody is sleeping (as I do now), but I need my sleep to :P.

So before I'll invest into the RME + 2xbose L1model1 compact with tonematch, it seems very wise to first try out the Hifimediy Sabre U2 with USB isolator +LD Dave 10 since the last setup will cost me less than 600 €. If I am still found wanting I can still decide if I want to upgrade to a system that costs 5x more. Of course I still hope to be able to test the LD Dave 10 before I buy it, as I am right now am using an JVC amplifier with passiveTecnics speakers of about 15+ years old, which had the same relative price in the time: but I think that the current active systems outclass the passive systems of those days... :-\ :-\


agaton

#31
The best way is to test it all !!! Than you can decide
what you need, and what is enough good for you !!!
I shall only say, in any case, stay by RME Babyface
(old or new Pro version).

I have also one little Dave 8 XSW System for monitoring
in one of studio rooms. It sounds lite HiFi but not extrem,
and it is very loud for this room (about 60 square meters).


Phil

I think I am going to take your advice mr Agaton and at least get the RME Babyface. Since I allready have reasonable passie speakers I may get the LD systems 15, which will give me enough time to save for the Bose 2xL1 typeII with tonematch, since I like lustening to classical music too ;D ;D ;D

agaton

Babyface shure, but LD Systems 15 G3 wll be a little bit
to big for your living room. You can't give enough power
to G3 to be on "operating temperature", and as result,
you will haven't the best sound from LD 15 G3 !!! Maybe
it is strange for you, but it is normaly operating principle
of PA systems.

Phil

In that case I guess it will be the LB systems Dave 8  ;D. How is the modulation matrix programming progressing:  of the 5000+ how many to go ( or is it a secret  ;) ;D ::) ) ???

agaton

LD Dave 8 XS is very good solution for you (but only this
model). There are 3 models and the quality is the same,
but the price is very different !!!

It is not a secret, programing of Controll Matrix progressing
very good, and I think, it will be finished about 20. Juni.

Phil

 :-* :-* :-* CONGRATS  :-* :-* :-* in advance mr Agaton for your finishing your TA soundengine.

I was allready wondering why the LD DAVE 8 Roady was nearly 100euro more expensive, but now I know I should go for the LD Dave 8 XS :o

I was allready looking for (cheap temporary) hardware solutions, just in case it would take much longer, I stumbled on the Fame G2000 (a.k.a Medeli (=the maker of the Wersi Pegasus Wing) A1000) which now is 299euro at the musicstore.de: 7 inch colourtouchscreen display, a few not so bad sounds; including church organ (I do think the Ketron SD1000 sounds much better), with a five octave keyboard that is 12 times cheaper than the Ketron Keyboard. I have never heard this board personally though and my positive impressions are only based on YouTube postings:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=efQR7Ihl8sQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0LMZa_Kd4zI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQLSRa--c4A

But I guess I will first wait until july: the role out of the vArranger2 with the superior TA soundengine. Will you (mr. Agaton) or mr. Dan posting some betatesting sounds on YouTube or will I need to take a (very little) step in the dark when I purchase version 1.18 and purchase the the TA sound-engine (while counting on the very nice sounding mp3 samples posted on Facebook?  Unfortanately I will not be posting videos straight away; since I am postponing the purchase of the RME Babyface to see if I am as smart as mr. Agaton thinks I am (in being able to master operation of the vArranger 2 in half an hour -- I don't mind a learning curve of a few days though) and of course the satisfaction with the TA soundengine (I have very little doubt in that matter though): of course I would not want to disgrace this superior TA soundengine with posting sounds recorderded with my standard pc soundcard...

haweneu

Hi Phil,
if you say Fame G2000, then take a look to a modified Version of this Keyboard with very good new sounds, but also higher price!

"Deebach MAX" zum Musikertreffen in Elxleben 2015 - YouTube
Video zu "deebach max"▶ 58:15
www.youtube.com/watch?v=MLt6lVPf6Ks

agaton

Quote from: Phil on May 16, 2015, 02:18:42 PM
...Will you (mr. Agaton) or mr. Dan posting some betatesting sounds on YouTube...
I shall do it, no worry, you will have enough demos of TA Sound Engine !!!

sdada

the answer concerning the beginning of a subject
SF2 will be made especially for vArranger2 1.17 soon
We made and we improve the programmy emulator the E-Ketron( soft Ketron SD2 sound module)

Phil

I love your TransAudio Hq Clarinet video on You Tube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0vDxvh5Ve0c    :P  But unfortunately I felt the rest of the accompanying style sounded 'fake' and dull to me: I hope this is not from the TA-soundengine? :-[

But more important for me, what will your TransAudio Engine for vArranger 2 do for the European organ player, as the older Wersi organs have much more honeylike sweet high organ tones than the Hammond. The Deebach Max keyboard has some beautiful sampled  Wersi organs (Wersi Helios, Wersi Beta, Wersi spectra, Wersimatic drum:
              https://soundcloud.com/deebach/wersitime-mit-xms-pro
              https://soundcloud.com/deebach/deebach-xms-pro-f-r-korg-4
              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MLt6lVPf6Ks
                 01:20 Wersi
                 30:36 organ (and nice switching of the Rotary speed)+ guitar
                 53:40 quick seamless) soundchanges with on 56:03: seamless soundchanges on a typical organ arrangement
                 For the organplayer these seamless changes of sounds , rotary switching, different tonal organ sounds within the same organ model are vital.
                 Nice (in my opinion) in this video is also  7:26 dynamic e-piano playing, 09:37 Hammond (the building of), 15:50  church organ, 17:25 orchestra violins, 23:20 relaxation music, 24:40 different accordions: German, Dutch, Russian,  Argentian, French,  Italian, Austrian,26:22 mouth harmonica , 33:37 left hand drum=left speaker/ right hand drum = right speaker , 35:00 big band, 35:31 trumpet, 38:30 flutes, 40:10 orchestral flutes, 40:30 jazz flutes, 42:20 dynamic horns, 44:15 exotic flutes, 47:47 & 50:04 Max and vArranger,

              http://www.deebach.eu/videodemos_max.htm

The specs of vArrange2 are awesome, the TransAudio Engine for Clarinet speaks for it self (is this the same clarinet that will be on the TA engine for vArranger2) and shows promise for all blowers.  Unlike mr. Dan suggested, I do not want to mix up different soundengines together, as they will have different operation methods and is too confusing for me: no ease of use, I am therefor really hopîng the TA soundengine to be all inclusive. To be honest the organs (Wersi, Hammond and church) of the Deebach Max makes me melt away and since this is my main area of playing I hope you will not leave us wanting in this area mr. Agaton, so have you included Wersi organ and seamless soundchanges on your TransAudio Engine?  :P ::) :) 8)

agaton

You can hear some of other sounds from TA Sound Engine in another
demos what Dan had put on vArranger Facebook site. They are all
other but not dull. TA Sound Engine sounds very raw and naturaly,
without HiFi sweetenes. I hate this manipulation of sounds with effects.
The ground samples and sound programs, must be autenticaly, but
also playable without effects. Thats mean, the sounds are good edited
and samples are clean, with perfect loop points. So sounds TA Sound
Engine, very direct and concrete, wit all artefacts of certain instrument !!!

Phil

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 :) ;) :D ;D You are very right mr Agaton, I nearly forget about your earlier beautiful samples.

But what about the Wersi sounds, is your TA soundengine going to have it mr Agaton: I know at least 2 people who would love it: mr Donny (see his  Wersi post) and myself ;)