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Hmmmm.

no answers probably means nothing available which I consider a lost change to allure more potential buyers to this piece of software.
Unfortunately I change quickly the music programs, if I cannot find sufficient support in the environment.
A ressource showing examples and workflows for various use cases would increase the interest of this product enormously in my view.

It´s a pity noone  has made an effort so far.

All the tutorials of Band-in-A-Box helped me a lot to get into the specifics of this software (which is also tricky).

Let me know if I misinterpreted the silence to this topic.

Cheers
Akkordeonhansel

Hi all,

it seems to me, that there are very few explaining or tutorial videos out there which I hugely miss. Not everyone is very adept in using the software like a pro just by trying things out or reading the manual an try to transfer that to his own workflow.

I learn by seeing and repeating (as do a lot of people). Therefore I always cherish the vidio tuts of software products. Unfortunatelly for VA I cannot find many resources on the net.

Wouldn´t it be helpful, if there would be more content created in this direction. In fact, I hold it for a purchasing criteria, if a software is well documented in a way with video tutorials to reproduce the handling and workflow experience.

Or am I missing a vast pool of tutorial videos someplace???

Thanks for your feedbacks!

BR Akkordeonhansel

Hi Agaton,

thx for your suggestion but this did not fix the issue. Just delivering other sounds that are more in the area of key related sounds not percussion at all.

Unfortunatelly I did not manage to find out with expected drum instrument is responsible for the weird instrument playing as the levels in the drum mixer do not respond to levelling down to zero volumne. So I was not able to figure it out what is happening on the percussion track.

Two screenshots attached. My port settings with Ketron SD1000 and the drum mixer settings.

Any other ideas?

Cheers Stefan

Hi all,

I encountered another issue now while playing along in styles. vArranger2 is switching sounds while I play already from my second measure. This happend with all styles I played from the standard style list (last was from SWING section style Swing 1). I wonder if my installation could go corrupt somehow. This is surely not normal and I guess this is an individual problem.

Please suggest a remedy.

Thanks for your help!

Cheers Stefan

PS: Running vArranger2 V 1.20.02 with vArranger Sftware Synth

Hi all,

I am on holiday and find time to play a little with vArranger2 V. 1.2002.

This is not a version specific issue though.
When playing a style there are some weired sounds played in the percussion track. I tried to find out, who I can track down the culprit by right clicking the percussion track and entering drum mixer. I set each instrument there to level zero while the style was playing and the weired sound never stopped playing.
As I think this is a common problem, I hope you have a simple way to solve this puzzle for me.


I am using the build in varranger synth on GM or GM2 mode (makes no difference) with my Presonus Studio24c as audio output.


The style I was using from the Pop area is called "ENGL". I think this is from the standard installation.

Thanks for your help!
I hope I can make progress during holiday season - otherwise time is up again.....

Cheers Stefan

I could not have put it better Dan.... ;-)
The request still remains very reasonable.

Cheers Stefan

Thanks Christoph for sharing your experiences with us.
Love to hear more of your findings soon. :-)

Cheers Stefan

Hi Dan, all,

I got a second hand windows tablet and want to install V2 there.
Is there anything to consider?
Can I download the version I have some place? This year I got the 1.20 version of the product - not sure if it was an upgrade installation or not.

How to proceed?

Thanks for your help!

Cheers
Stefan

Hi all

I would like to have a solution to simply put VArranger2 on a bandstand in front of my keyboard or midi accordion and play along with the styles while using touch for interface interaction.

With which solutions do you others work for this purpose, Surface Pro, ThinkPad Yoga, others? How much power and RAM of a maschine is enough in this setup?

Please share your experiences.

Thanks in advance!

Cheers Stefan

Gibt es eine Version history von vArranger 2?

Gruß Stefan

Hi Dan,

Yes, I can work with this.
The volume changes can not be store in the start-up config?
The volume of RIGHT1 is alway at maximum when I start a new song - and this is rarely what I want.
Also the octave changes to RIGHT1 is not saved to the start-up configuration. At least, that´s what I seem to have.

Can you share another tipp ?

Cheers
Stefan

Hey Dan,

that work for the splitt point.
Another nuisance in this context is, that I had to put the volume of LEFT1 to zero volume (the other LEFT were already on zero volume). Otherwise the sound of my left hand is still playing with sound. Unfortunatelly, setting the volume to zero does not stay when switching to variation B, C, D. The volume for LEFT1 returns and sounds the too low instruments sounds. That should be avoided.

What am I doing wrong? That would be a parameter worth storing accross sessions and songs IMHO.

Cheers Stefan

Hallo Zusammen,

ich habe das Problem, dass die Akkorde in der linken Hand meines kleine 49 Tasten Keyboards bis zu 2/3 für die Akkorderkennung genutzt wird. Diese Harmonie Range würde ich gerne verkleinern - Wo?

Auch klingt das Instrument unter "RIGHT1" bis zum tiefsten Ton des Keyboards - auch wenig nützlich, da die Känge nicht mehr in jedem Instument dargestellt werden können. Außerdem soll die Harmonie Range nicht selbst noch mitklingen.

Was muss ich tun?

Danke für den entscheidenden Tipp!!

Beste Grüße
Stefam

As I had the same problems with other software I now deducted, that the keyboard got hit somehow while playing around with styles and voices in VArranger. A switch of and on of the keyboard solved my immediate issue now.

But that is annoying, that style patches or voices change the way my M-Audio Oxygen pro 49 is behaving :-(

Can´t be helped I guess - can it?

Thanks for advice.

Cheers
Stefan

Hi Dan,

I was playing around with different voices putting one asian flute to RIGHT2. The to my perception strange things happened I am not able to revers it. The tones of the keyboard became somewhat limited (possibly because of intelligence and the system knowing the flute is playing in some sort of pentatonic key range). Also the accord detection seemed to have shifted and for example second inversion of F major is interpreted as a minor and other weired things.

I hope for an easy fix for this as a restart of the program did not fix it.

Second question. If I drag a second right had voice to RIGHT2 for example, I did not find an intuitive way to get it out of the channel RIGHT leaving me only to set it to of on the channel. There must be a better way - is it not?

Thanks for your advice.

Cheers Stefan

Is there a way to have the OTS switched when changing the variation?
I thought this is the meaninig on LINK - but it did not do the trick.

Like on a Tyros or GENOS, when I switch the variation the OTS switches the sounds for right 1-3.
How to do that in a same way without having the LEFT sound issue in the left hand accompanyment.

Cheers
Stefan

Hi Dan,

please let me also have details to the available soundbanks and what they are best for to use. Or can all soundbanks be used at the same time? do I need to do lots of individual config in the vearious styles to attach specific soundbanks or is VA2 identifying the best to use all by itself?

Thanks for details and prices.

Cheers
Stefan

Hi Dan,

already changing the variation from "A" to "B" and so forth toggles the on/off switch to on in max volume. That´s not very useful in my opinion.

I attach a screenshot, of what I am talking about. Nope. Not working. If I go to reply, I always get a quick reply message opened with out possibility to attach by file upload.

Pasting the image into the text also does not work.
Well, that works if you toggle the view into source code view....
Sorry for describing my unsuccessful attempts and the succeeding in the end.






Cheers
StefanYou cannot view this attachment.

Hey Dan,

your tipp works so far. Unless you switch to the next variation - then you have to switch off the sound of the left voice again. If I am only interessted in the generated accompaniment of VA2, that is a really nuisance.
Is this worth a parameter to set such an option.

While playing along music, I can not switch off the left channal sounds. Variations I can shuffle by way of an foot controler - I can not fiddle around on the laptop.

Just a point for discussion or more enlightement from Dan --> Stefan

Cheers

Yees. Needed ports for other stuff. The dongle was not plugged in.
Now I try your other suggestions.

How do I mark a topic as solved?

Cheers
Stefan

Hi Dan,

after playing around with VArranger the other day with Ketron SD1000 connected, it stopped launching yesterday.
What´s happening after I run it?
Screen is getting black,
I see the text
"Loading
Song list"
and then the loading of the program stops to what I can see.
Also VArranger has no process in task manager after this.

I tryed to rerun the installer exe. But that also did not deliver success.

What can I do?

Thanks for help!

Cheers
Stefan

Hello all,

this is probably a very newbee question.

When I play with the keyboard attached, the left had shall not sound with voice 1 and 2 but only chord detection shall be read by vArranger. Sounds shall only play above a splitt point for melody/soloing.

I played with the faders, the either sound or all is muted.

What is the trick to achive this?

Cheers
Stefan

Solved by myself :-)

Pretty easy in the end.

As I was using the SD90 sandalone with an midi accordion before, I had faders of player turned down.
Now that I am comming with an external signal into SD90 it seems, that the player slider needs to be turned on.

At least that did the trick - I have the style from VA2 playing on the SD90.

The sounding styles seem wrongly mapped though. Sounds a little weird. Hmmmmm?

Cheers
Stefan

Hello all,

anyone that who connected a Ketron SD90 a the sound source (output)?
I tried each midi in ports of the SD90, but its not reacting to the input it receives.
It didn´t work on midi in 1(GM) or midi in2 (Keyboard).
Seems it is not picking up the midi input.

In the playmodes I chose as input Master Keyboard. In the midi settings I tried different from Standard to Keyboard right voice, Keyboard & styles, Computer & Sequencer - nothing.

Can the midi input from vArranger produce all the styles voices on right side and accompanying side overall? Or am I barking up the wrong tree?

Newbies have a lot of riddels to solve..... ;-) But I am looking forward to take advantage of all the styles that are offered in the restricted user area - when I get them to sould like expected.


Anyone who knows my problem and can advice?

Thanks for help.

Cheers
Stefan

Can I have a remote session with you Dan to look thru my configuration?
Send me a PM is it is an option :-)

Where is the button for attachments? I only see a content system editor that allows for inserting URLs to pictures but my screenshot is local. Sorry I am to stupid to find the obvious....

I am currently play with a Novation SL MK2 connected to my laptop and laptop connected to SD1000.
Is it normal, that every style catches the overall volume control and hikes it up to "full speed"? I blows my ears every time I switch to a new style.


Cheers
Stefan

Hello Dan

I switched now to a midi keyboard to understand better VArranger V2 and not have to carry the accordion arround. First ein have to understand how to control basic issues with volume differences in styles between right 1 volume and style volume.

The connection and sound via the SD1000 is now fine I would assume. I connected it as you said before. That works.

Also thanks to your forum I have quite some styles I wanted to try out. Mainly Tyros Styles but also Genos as I own such keyboards.

With V2 I experience unfortunatelly very arbitrary volume balance in styles between voices (i.e. Right1 and accompanying style). And there seems also to be no parameter that enables a steady volume that is audible. As in most styles the RIGHT1 is very low in volume despite the volume fader is completly turned up on 127. Chorus is on level 0. And without turning Chorus up, the volume is to low for RIGHT 1. Probably the same is true for the other voices. What is the fix for that behaviour? This is true for styles of different keyboard types so I assume its a parametrisation issue on V2 - is it not?

My current workflow looks like this:

I pick a style
Set OTS Link on (then shown in red colour)
I set the SYNC Start on
Go to variation A and start playing a chord on the keyboard

The situation is more or less as seen in the attached screenshot.
BTW, what does the error message want to tell me?

Any idea to get me playing music with less hassle is welcome!

How can I insert a screenshot - I don´t find a control to upload a pic?! Have done it before?!?!?

Cheers
Stefan

I will try to work with this information Dan the other day....
Thx.

Hello all,

maybe the more settled VA2 users can help me out with this issue.

I am using the VA2 as an accordionist with a midi accordion. Accompanyment works in principle fine. Chords are detected correctly and backing tracks start playing as I start playing.
My setup involved the midi accordiong soundmodule - I leave this from the midi out to my midi Ketron SD1000 midi in port, from there (via midi thru) to my midi interface Presonus Studion24c which is connected to my laptop.

When I pick styles for example from Tyros 2 my accordion is normaly sounding some sort of default sound which I don´t like and don´t unterstand, where to change that.

And although no OTS is activated in the beginning when a style is picked. While I picked an OTS style the sound volumes always change to something little balanced - why is that? The style display also does not switch the sounds/instruments while switching the OTS variations. And why is there no synchronization between switching OTS variations and the variations on the bottom of VA2. Can that be activated somehow?
Running through the OTS variations mostly in variation3 and 4 there is huge amount of reverb in the sound that is overflooding the whole music - is this normal? Is there a simple, general fix for this?

And one more - some instruments that are sounding are very low in volume despite the volume level is on maximun in the program. The only way to level it up runs for some reason over the chorus dial. That increases the volume than to a decernable level. What to do here?

And now the very last one for the moment. I was not able to create music without the midi interface Studio24C from Presonus only using the SD1000 connected to my computer. I needed to enter a auido out device and SD1000 was not listed. An with only a generic Asio driver selected my accordion chords where not detected from VA2 - only after looping the signal via SD1000 Thru port to the Studio24C that was connected to my laptop and referenced in the audio out port in the Midi/#Audio Setup.
Any ideas if this setup could be streamlined?!

Thanks for your help!

I add a few screenshots from my setup and VA2.

Cheers
Stefan

What is this Soundbank about?
Is that the midi files sound on the computer like on the Genos keyboard?
Where are they sold?

Cheers
Stevie

Hello all,

how are you using and are you connecting your midi accordions with varranger2?
can you post photos of you setup? The smaller footprint the better.

Anyone likes to share his setup with me/us?

Cheers
Stefan

sounds interessting.

Hi

I strongly playing with the thought to get into vArranger, yet I wait for the newest version.
How long to wait for that vArranger3?

Cheers
Stefan

Hello Dan and Team,

is there some information as what to expect from the next version of vArranger3?

Thanks for insights.

Cheers
Stefan

Hello all,

is vAranger interessting for midi accordion usage in live events?
How are you using it?

Thanks for your experiences.

Is vArranger despite the long outstanding update still a good buy for the high initial cost? What you think? Is it still functioning with modern keyboards? I own a GENOS.

Cheers
Stefan

Good replay Dan :-)

Any news from the upgrade project?

Cheers
Stefan

Hello all,

this thread seems to never ended with a new released version of vArranger. Or am I wrong?
I found this software mentioned in a Band-in-aBox forum and thought, it might be useful.

Are you still waiting for a new version to be released?

Is the "old" version functioning properly for you guys?

Thanks for you feedback.

Cheers
Stefan