Future of vArranger?

[bluebeat]

Hi Dan.
I visit this forum from time to time, hoping that there would be some kind of substantial progress, but unfortunately nothing much is happening.

With Claude and other AI tools, there should be no excuses of any kind to move forward. I have seen a non-programmer (zero coding experience) build a complex music software from scratch in 6 weeks of casual prompting.

The ball is in your court like never before. Adding, refactoring, it takes 100x faster now (and cleaner) than a few short years ago. Please don't let VA die like a fish on hot sand. Charge reasonably / make your flock happy.

[Dan]

AI is helping a lot to go faster and further on projects. However, not really helpful for example to understand style file formats where no information is available elsewhere

Users can post here their ideas for futur of vArranger

[bluebeat]

"However, not really helpful...."
Are you sure about that? It can not only gather info from the net, but analyze file and virtually run all kinds of very complex tests. Within minutes. Something that took days & weeks & months of hard work just a few years ago. As a non-coder I was able to achieve something in 3 days that would have taken months to build by pro coder before.

Well,
I will start with obvious:

VA as a True VST format, no banana plugs and other ridiculous nonsense. Yes, AI can re-compile.

Proper, well designed style mixer, where you can easily drag and drop sections to re assemble /make your own styles. Method existed for 30+ years in hardware modules-nothing of that nature in VA.

Reimagined chord entry sheet with theory tools. Etc.

There are of course more, but these are main.

Again, I was skeptical, but after trying a few things myself, I can assure you that completely shiny vA3 can be made in a matter of 2-4 weeks of part time attention / prompting.

[haweneu]

Hi,
I've been programming various ESP32-based musical electronics—such as an electronic melodica and a GUI for controlling sound expanders—using various AIs (ChatGPT, Claude, Grok, Google Gemini) for about three years now. My experience is that while AI is very helpful, it fails completely on more complex projects; it generates a lot of nonsense when dealing with multiple source files and Makefiles, which ends up wasting a huge amount of time. So, I can certainly understand Dan's point. It's great for specific sub-tasks, but handing an entire project over to AI is a recipe for disaster.

Best regards
Werner

[bluebeat]

 "it fails completely on more complex projects"
really? I guess it depends how "complex" they are.
I am not saying, dump vA2 in AI pot and cook vA3. What I am saying, development with these tools allow to speed things up by at least 80%. It feels at this point development of vA has severely stagnated.

Werner, if you are happy with the progress vA made in the past 5 years, good for you. I have a different opinion, and with new amazing available tools, I find that stagnation hard to accept.

[haweneu]

Hi,
I also want more progression with VA2. For example new functions like every Finger on Upper plays different Sounds Like modern Keyboards.
AI helps me very often in Parts of Projekts.

Best regards
Werner