Hello dear friends!
[...] But later I found video with Ketron SD1000 and I must say I liked it's sounds.
Now I have a question for myself - do I really want to buy SD1000. Reading messages of that Forum I can see that SD1000 is not a simple toy especially in the matter of turning it's DSPs. The user manual for SD1000 is rather difficult for understanding. Thanks to Dan he made the Effect Panel for SD1000. I could send MIDI messages to CakeWalk from vArranger and record them in CakeWalk usin virtual MIDI cable. So - I can compare the recorded matherial with User Manual for SD1000 for understanding what NRPNs and SYSEX SD1000 needs to operate with it's DSPs.
Analyzing the MIDI data recorded in CakeWalk I can try to make the special panel - CakeWalk Studioware in order to operate DSPs in SD1000 directrly using CakeWalk.
Now - my questions. :)
1. On that Forum I read messages that SD1000 "remember" all settings and can not reset them to default values. Is that true? Does SD1000 understand any Reset command for the settings of the sound? Maybe GM-Reset SYSEX?
2. Does somebody use SD1000 not only with vArranger? If so - how do you use it?
3. Does SD1000 need any drivers for it's USB-MIDI interface? There is no information on www.ketron.it site.
4. Did anybody try to use such a kind of DC\DC converter for powering SD1000 from simple Power-bank with 5 volt (we use it with mobile-phones).. https://aliexpress.ru/item/1005003703674287.html
5. Maybe you have another suggestions to the guy who is thinking about SD1000.
6. I can not found the sound-exaples of SD1000's Pads and Leads. Can you share the recording of such sounds?
I want to remind you the small software. With the help of it you can operate all voices and all NRPNs in SD1000 acording of INS file.
https://cloud.mail.ru/public/97j7/YvHQXQaSg
Thank you for reading! Have a nice day!
No one SD1000 user here??
Hi,
I use SD1000 over 10 years with VA2. You Need no ins File because VA2 knows all Sounds, if yo Connect it as Midi Output.
Now answers to your questions:
1. On that Forum I read messages that SD1000 "remember" all settings and can not reset them to default values. Is that true? Does SD1000 understand any Reset command for the settings of the sound? Maybe GM-Reset SYSEX?
My answer:
If you use an Sound that has included EFX Processing From one of the 2 DSP (EFX1,2) and then change to a Sound without DSP, the DSP effect of the earlyer Sound works with the new Sound => Both dsp remember the last settings until power Off or if you change it with NRPN or Sysex.
You can set the EFX Channel of dsp1,2 to Off with an NRPN.
2. Does somebody use SD1000 not only with vArranger? If so - how do you use it?
No!
3. Does SD1000 need any drivers for it's USB-MIDI interface? There is no information on www.ketron.it site.
No! It is a class compliant Midi Device.
4. Did anybody try to use such a kind of DC\DC converter for powering SD1000 from simple Power-bank with 5 volt (we use it with mobile-phones).. https://aliexpress.ru/item/1005003703674287.html
No.
5. Maybe you have another suggestions to the guy who is thinking about SD1000.
No.
6. I can not found the sound-exaples of SD1000's Pads and Leads. Can you share the recording of such sounds?
No.
I want to remind you the small software. With the help of it you can operate all voices and all NRPNs in SD1000 acording of INS file.
https://cloud.mail.ru/public/97j7/YvHQXQaSg
I dont need it, because va2 can direct send commands to the Both DSP, but it cannot Save the settings with a Song!
Best regards From
Werner From Germany
Hi Werner!
Thank you so much for your answers!
vArranger is not my chice of softwae :) I prefer to make MIDI files by myself with recording track by track and then play with MIDI keyboard over my MIDI files.
I am thinking about SD1000 as about rather small box with rather good sounds.
1. As I can see - there is no exact information - what factory sounds in SD1000 included EFX. So - does it means that if I will change the factory sound it will bring me the unpredictable result? Maybe the preset factory sounds don't use DSPs and I will not need to turn the power off after I changed another preset sound?
At all - if I will not make any settings in DSPs - I will have no problems with changing sounds?
2. The small and free software I mentioned is very userful because SD1000 has no display and operating buttons, but using this software ("Selector" https://www.kvraudio.com/product/selector-by-vague-software) it is possible to operate it without VA2.
3. I am going to create the panel Studioware to operate SD1000 in CakeWalk (I prefer CakeWalk 9.03 for MIDI recordings and editings). When I will finish it - I share on that forum. The main feature of Studioware - it can insert all settings of every DSP directly to MIDI file and save them with MIDI file, and much more - not only as a snapshorts but also changings of any parametre in real-time.
By the way - once I created several Studiowares for my Yamaha PSR 740 and shared them. You can take them from this URL http://www.jososoft.dk/yamaha/more_software.htm
The only bad thing - I can not find in the User Manual for SD1000's DSP the DEFAULT values of the each parametres of the each DSPs. To say - sending MIDI data with the help of playing small MIDI file is also the way to make a kind of reset for all parametres if you will record the default parametres in MIDI file.
Maybe I am wrong and you can show me the point in Manual with such information...
Imagine - you open Studioware, click "Snapshot" and it sends all Default values to both DSPs into any MIDI track and also into SD1000 - it is the kind of Reset. Then you can make any changings for DSPs and record them....
4. DC\DC converter is also rather userful thing because it allows to use ANY music-device (wich need 9 or 12 volt for powering) without using batteries and power socket. Now days the power-bank for mobile-phone is very common thing. :)
Thank you one more time for your attention!
Kind Regards!
Nick.
Hi,
SD1000 Voice Bank D only the last 8 Sounds have integrated EFX processing.
If you love good Sounds, there Are some Sound Expander From V3Sound Austria. I use V3SonorityXXL, V3GrandpianoXXL and V3Axxordionmaster XXL. This Are older Versions! Now he has the pro Version!
My prefered DAW is Reaper. You can direct in one Midi Track select an ins File for Sound selection with Sound names. No other Plugin needed.
Best regards
Werner
Hi!
One more thanks for your reply!
Very interesting - is it possible to use those 8 Sounds with integrated EFX processing without any fear of any surprize? Each of the sound has it's own DSP settings? And no need to turn device OFF? All 8 paches sounds right? How it coiuld be so?
By the way, as I noticed looking on vArranger v.1.19.01 there is the bug in the Effects window of SD1000 in the System Chorus block. The knob "Feedback" in any position sends the same SYSEX - F0 41 00 42 12 40 01 3B 40 00 F7
Hope other vArranger users know about that and Dan solved this small bug in subsequent versions...
Regards!
Nick.
Hi,
Dan told me years ago that he dont make any work on SD1000 DSP in the Future! Not enough SD1000 Users! Today most va2 Users work with VST Instruments and effects.
I use only Hardware soundexpanders! My old win10 pc's works Perfect!
If you select any of this 8 Sounds in SD1000 Bank D , the DSP settings are Set for each Sound different and you can hear this for Example with Sound ,,Organ Overdrive". Here works distortion in DSP.
Best regards
Werner
Thank you so much for nice conversation!
Have a nice day!
Regards!
Nick.
Hi!
I have uploaded vSender (https://www.varranger.com/vforum/index.php/topic,4900.0.html) in the Tool section.
vSender (versatile Sender) is an Excel-based utility for sending SysEx to any MIDI device via MIDIOX. SysEx are computed from user-entered data and formulas stored as Device sheets.
Graphical user interface (GUI) provides up to 18 assignable Faders and Send buttons to adjust and transmit SysEx to MIDI output port.
It carries 1 Device sheets for SD1000 aftertouch and 1 for SD1000 EFX with dynamic Control description.
It works to set EFX. Right tracks aftertouch is OK but something is going wrong with left tracks and I don't know if it comes from bad SysEx or from my hardware setting that is not that simple. :o When time permits I'll try to fix this; it's very easy to add/change SysEx parameters.
SD1000 sounds really good with aftertouch. :D
vSender sends only SysEx. I'm not knowledgeable about short MIDI message but OutputMidiMsg is what should be used.
Regards.
Themog
Hello! One more question about SD1000...
I can not understand how to get audio drum-loops sounds. If I load for example file from the Audio Drum Loop folder - for example BACHATA_A.mid into CakeWalk - CakeWalk place it to the 9th MIDI channel as Afro1 patch with bank SD1000 Live Drums1 https://cloud.mail.ru/public/RYD3/sXUkW5V6a
Why exactly the Afro1? And.. I can not have any sound from bank SD1000 Live Drums2 !! Why??
Hi,
The Name "Audio Loop" is wrong from Ketron used.
There Are only Midi files for playing the normal samples in the Midi drum patches.
Real Audio Loops Are for examinierte inside the Ketron Event Keyboards.
Best regards
Werner
"Audio Loops" by Ketron SD100 are Sliced Waves and all of Slices are packed in one Sound Program on different Notes. Ketron Event has Audio Loops (Drums, Bass, Rhythm Guitar) but it funct. not 100% like a normal Midi Styles, spatially by Variations change over FillIns, also for Rhythm Guitar Audio Loops is necessary to sample a huge number of Loops for lot of Tonalities and lot of Chords Dur, mol, 7th, 6th, dimm... All in all, Audio Loop technology is not yet perfect.
Thank you for reply! In other words - if I use the file "KetronSD1000xSonar_With Life Drums.ins" (here it is https://cloud.mail.ru/public/DkpD/YiQA5zxHT) and see this one https://cloud.mail.ru/public/5mhi/GMD56YhsX the
4-SD1000 Live Drums1 and 8-SD1000 Live Drums2 are a kind of miracle? If I choose any of them I can hear simple drum-sets on each patch-name. But they are not seems to be "live drum loops"..
Sorry me to be so silly but - does Ketron SD1000 real Live Loops or not? If "Yes" - how to get them? Or maybe the ins-file "KetronSD1000xSonar_With Life Drums.ins" is a big fake? Why they give two folders with some drum notes - I mean the folder "Audio Drum Loop" and "SD 1000 groove library"?? What is the real mean of them?
Thank you!
Hi,
Yes, real Audio Drum Loops in SD1000 never did exist! Big Fake!
"Audio Drum Loop" and "SD 1000 groove library" contain only Midi File snippets that Play Standard Drum Sound from the different drum soundbanks.
Best regards
Werner
Ha-ha! Nice fake! :)
What is your opunion - is SD1000 much better than SD2?
Thank you!
Hi,
Yes. I bought an SD 2 some years ago and compared it with my SD1000. SD1000 Sounds Are much better than SD2 Sounds. There are worlds between Both!
Best regards
Werner