Hi Dan, it would be helpful for those like me who also use a PC keyboard to have the key reference in the lower-right corner of each vA2 key. I've attached an example.
If I use a PC keyboard to control the vArranger, I use these keys:
Variation A - A
Variation B - B
Variation C - C
Variation D - D
Ending 1 - 1
Ending 2 - 2
Ending 3 - 3
Start/Stop - Space (or 0)
This selection is very intuitive, so I don't need to look at the help.
I don't usually need to control the other functions while playing, so I don't need keyboard shortcuts for them
Quote from: v.muller on July 25, 2025, 09:43:49 AMIf I use a PC keyboard to control the vArranger, I use these keys:
Variation A - A
Variation B - B
Variation C - C
Variation D - D
Ending 1 - 1
Ending 2 - 2
Ending 3 - 3
Start/Stop - Space (or 0)
This selection is very intuitive, so I don't need to look at the help.
I don't usually need to control the other functions while playing, so I don't need keyboard shortcuts for them
I use more commands.. :)
This is a good idea, but I think usually, it is better to stick a label on the PC keyboard..... It is more intuitive
Quote from: Dan on July 28, 2025, 11:23:49 AMThis is a good idea, but I think usually, it is better to stick a label on the PC keyboard..... It is more intuitive
With these responses, it seems increasingly clear to me that the vA2 project will not have any further updates in the future. :o
In this case, I would like to defend Dan.
It probably wouldn't be a problem to implement in the program, but it's about efficiency.
If you want to press Variation B, for example, you first have to look at the monitor, where you will read that you have to press the X key, and then you will look for this key on the keyboard.
Dan meant that it is faster and more practical (and currently immediately feasible) to make labels directly on the keys.
The alternative, as I wrote 7 years ago, is to use a more intuitive selection of keyboard shortcuts.
https://www.varranger.com/vforum/index.php?msg=31114
However, the best option is a separate control unit.
https://www.varranger.com/vforum/index.php/topic,4490.msg36450.html#msg36450
Quote from: v.muller on July 28, 2025, 04:00:23 PMIn this case, I would like to defend Dan.
It probably wouldn't be a problem to implement in the program, but it's about efficiency.
If you want to press Variation B, for example, you first have to look at the monitor, where you will read that you have to press the X key, and then you will look for this key on the keyboard.
Dan meant that it is faster and more practical (and currently immediately feasible) to make labels directly on the keys.
The alternative, as I wrote 7 years ago, is to use a more intuitive selection of keyboard shortcuts.
https://www.varranger.com/vforum/index.php?msg=31114
However, the best option is a separate control unit.
https://www.varranger.com/vforum/index.php/topic,4490.msg36450.html#msg36450
Honestly, I have no intention of spending money on stickers, much less messing up my PC keyboard. I'll just point out that the program has been down for 2 years (or maybe more).
Even if you don't seem to be interested in finding a different solution that what you have asked
It is interesting to know that we can use 2 pc keyboards on the same PC
It is possible for exemple to buy a separate Bluetooth pc keyboard that will be used for controlling vArranger, and labelled as wanted
They are pretty cheap today
btw vArranger is not down ...
Quote from: Dan on July 29, 2025, 08:32:55 AMEven if you don't seem to be interested in finding a different solution that what you have asked
It is interesting to know that we can use 2 pc keyboards on the same PC
It is possible for exemple to buy a separate Bluetooth pc keyboard that will be used for controlling vArranger, and labelled as wanted
They are pretty cheap today
btw vArranger is not down ...
It's still an expense to bear, not to mention the time it takes to print and make the labels. Well, if the project isn't dead yet, then I hope to see this and a few other requests soon. :D
You don't even know how much time such a feature will take to me to create ;D ;D ;D Hey, this is my job ;D ;D
Quote from: Dan on July 29, 2025, 02:42:58 PMYou don't even know how much time such a feature will take to me to create ;D ;D ;D Hey, this is my job ;D ;D
Ouch, I imagine something more complicated... I was thinking that an arpeggiator is missing... ::)
More interesting ;D
Quote from: Dan on July 29, 2025, 03:34:23 PMMore interesting ;D
Is it possible to have some beta versions to test?
Hi DAN, I want to insert an image of the PC keyboard I made to control vArr2 when I present...how to insert.
"insert image " it appears !.!.!.
while the image I want to present it is in the computer....
help me do it right....
Thanks
Now I can insert image.
can call 10 song,4 variation,4 fill IN, start-stop, 2 tntro,3 endings....more
Nice but strange because one big button seems to type many pc keys together
HI DAN,
When performing, I run this console parallel to the PC keyboard, everything is fine.
This console is 15cmx30cm in size....
I can arrange 32 control keys. Every time I practice a song and when I play for my friends, I only use these keys, I think it is more than enough...
I do it by: inside this keyboard there are 2 layers of nylon circuit, at the contact point if I want it to be "on" then I do nothing, and the contacts next to it I take insulating tape and stick it on, so even if I press it down, it will not create the "on" command...For example: on the console there is a big pink button labeled "b" when I press it down, there are 5 buttons in total: A, SA, D, Z, X pressed but only one button creates the "controller" command of vArr2.
I wish I could describe what I did...I stood playing the guitar and swung my arm to press the key I wanted, for example "ending B", it was big so it was precise...that day I was happy to have created it...showed it off to my friends...
Nice idea, thanks for sharing