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To time no, but I shall make it. You can also now write on English or Deutsch, almost all,
speak one of this two languages. Everything that interests you about Trans Audio Systems
(Instruments), you can ask and you will bekome right answer. Trans Audio Systems are very
complex. In the same time they are DigitalMixer, Workstation, Arranger (based on vArranger²),
Audio & Midi Player and Recorder (two Track stereo or 16 or more Tracks in the same time,
you can Recorded on the fly, without stop to play). Trans Audio instruments are immediately
ready to play with tousends of Styles and tousends of sounds. This machines are "audio Swiss
knive", with huge performance and thousends functions. More about it, you can ask on the
Trans Audio Forum. languages on the Forum are all languages  from Ex Yogoslawia, cause of
that you hadn't idea which language it is, sounds like Alien languge... hahahaha.

Thanx Lylo !!! I hope that a few user of TA Sound Engine, from
vArranger² Forum, report here their expiriences with TA Sound
Engine.

It is only software. Sound Banks in a SF2 format.
The same sounds I made also in Kontakt format.
You don't need any specially hardware.

What is "bizarre" ? Is it bizarre that I am professional and have respect and know
about business codex. Is it bizarre that I not write the price of my product, on the
vArranger² site ? It would be bizarre if I wrote the price on the portal of vArranger²
cause here distribute Dan very simmilar product (Sound Banks for vArranger²).

Is it still bizarre ?  I am sure it is not, it is extrem opposite.



Here are still few demos from TA Sound Engine. Dan linked all of this on vArranger²
Facebook together with all other demos, but I am not sure if anyone who search this
demos can find it.

TA Sound Engine on vArranger². All Styles are Factory Styles from different Keyboards.
On all Styles are Drum Kits processed with Ambient effect, which make Drums "big" and
powerfull and Style become "live" and "real instruments" feeling. There are also some
other small audio tricks on whole Style applied, to become more authenticity and reality.
All that I had implement in a TA Sound Engine, and so like you hear demos, sounding
also the Styles.

Swing

Adria Beat

Fox

Big Band

I am suspect that will be "no go", cause structure of effects is by SD2 and SD1000
different and also SysEx as Midi command to cahnge effects are different. It can be
routed (all this SysEx) to choice effects in SD1000 but it is too much work. Maybe
Dan will make this, or something simmilar for SD1000.

You want vArrangerSynth as Sound Engine for Reaper DAW !!!
vArrangerSynth can't be use like other software instruments or
VSTi PlugIns. I see only one chance to make that, but it is only
one chance. I have to check Reaper if it can do what you need.
After that we shall see.

It isn't so high as you probably expect !!! Please, come to Trans Audio Forum
and write one PP to me, or send me e-mail. I shall write all about transaction
from TA Sound Engine to you. It is much better as here all about it to discus.
I hope you understand me !!!

You can contact me on http://transaudio.forumprofi.de/index.php
and after registering or loging, write to me on PP.
Also you can make it direct via E-Mail agaton@t-online.de to order
TA Sound Engine.
You become Link for download TA Sound Engine, and some tips to
use it in vA2 for best sounding (which Mode, what of effects,  live
real time maximizing or leveling, to become best and powerful
sound, etc... etc... ).

Beforehand... I haven't understud your sentence on French language, it wasn't on right place !!!

Mistake ! TA Sound Engine is about one year on the market !!! Even, some members from this
forum have ordered TA Sound Engine and play long time on it. Your information is not right !!!
Also, I wrote in a few posts here some links to about 20 demos of factory Styles from Yamaha,
Korg, Roland, and Ketron Keyboards, played with TA Sound Engine. Factory Styles because, it is
easyer to compare it's quality with original sounding of adequate Keyboards. Although, sound
quality level of TA Sound Engine can be heared without any comparation. This Boot TA Sound
Engine is about 2.5GB samples with over 600 sounds and distributed in 10 SF2 Banks. This is
important information cause of value of computer RAM. It have to be one computer with 4GB
absolute minimum of RAM, more is better, cause whole 2.5GB samples wll be loaded in vArranger²
(direct in RAM). Why in vArrangerSynth and not one other SF2 Player, cause vArrangerSynth is
simply the best SF2 Player on the market. As one software instrument is vArrangerSynth very fast
(like a "bolid"), f.E. much faster as NI Kontaktakt. Cause of that vArrangerSynth has very small CPU
usage. On one Trans Audio System (or instrument) based on i7-6770HQ only 5% by playing of one
much complex Style with all 8 Style tracks and Latency 1.5ms. Than it suport 3 central effects,
Portamento function and very good Editor in vArranger² with ADHSR Amp Envelope, two LFO-s,
Wha-Wha, Velocity and Filter Modulation, Transposition... and other important functions and
modulations like a new amazing Drum Mixer.

TA Sound Engine Content




Some Mega Voices from Yamaha in TA Sound Engine



Exclussive for you one demo of Funk Style from Trans Audio Instrument, naturally played with
TA Sound Engine, no one VST instrument, no one hardware instrument, all what you hear is only
TA Sound Engine (SF2 thru vArrangerSynth):

TA Funk 1


The same Style, and same TA Sound Engine, but other sounds, and little bit Ambient VST on
Drum Tracks and Compressor VST in Master of vArranger² to demonstrate different sounds of
TA Sound Engine, and how deep can be one Style in vArranger² edited and changed only with
a few VST Plugin Effects and some sound editing in vArranger²-s Sound Editor.

TA Funk 2


Olivier71500, so one Sound Engine like TA Sound Engine can be only one for vArranger² and
can be played on middle class computer (with detailed Windows tweaking for audio) without
audible Latency, glitches, crackles and other noises. Also few Style tracks can be played from
VST instruments without any problems, but don't exaggerate with it. For intensive VST instruments
professional usage (specially of big VST instruments), you must have one powerful Audio PC to
play all sounds on VST Instruments for vArranger², PC must be really very strong, with huge
performance (like I wrote in the first post), Other way to have high quality sounds, is one good
hardware Sound Engine from newest generation (hybrid system).

My French is "a little bit" very old, but I hope I have understand what
"l'arlesienne" means !!! If I understud it right, I shall say, you are right.
Nevertheless I hoppe you will translate it for me.

Motif Rack XS...no it is not right !!! This is "mini version" of XF models. Rack XS has only 355MB Sample ROM.
Motif XF 741MB. It is more than double !!!

https://de.yamaha.com/de/products/music_production/synthesizers/motif-rack_xs/specs.html#product-tabs 

https://de.yamaha.com/de/products/music_production/synthesizers/motif_xf/specs.html

By Yamaha are Motifs not in the "first division", but Montage is one of the best hardware instruments at all.
With 5,67 GB sampling ROM and excellent features, Montage is on the top position by Yamahas Workstations.
Montage is in the same quality segment like Roland Integra 7 or Korg Kronos. Motif is far from it. Even the new
Yamahas MOXF has the same sampling ROM like the best Motif XF (741MB).

It is huge difference between Motif XF and Integra 7, but very huge, and it is also huge difference between
Super Articulation Voices of Tyros and Super Natural Voices of Integra 7. Super Natural Voices are right competitive
with good VST Instruments !!! They are not equivalent to Super Articulation sounds. This is also one big reason to
play "hybrid", you can make Super Articulation sounds from Yamaha f.E. in NI Kontakt. In "hybrid" mode you can
make with Midi Routings all Sound Engines Compatible with Styles or better with vArranger². In Trans Audio Sound
Engine f.E. we made all this Super Articulation Voices and implement it in Sound Engine, so it is no problem to play
any Yamaha Style, also from Yamaha Tyros 5 !!! It isn't "target" that Yamahas Styles sounds like in Yamahas Keyboards,
the Styles have to sounds better, this is the right target and this is the reason why to play vArranger² and not one of usual
arrangers.

Four SRX sound cards can be used in a same time on Integra 7 (only this bring it about 1.000 legendary Roland
sounds playable in the same time), but not SRX sounds are the "Joker" in Integra 7, there are Super Natural Sounds.
GM or GS Bank from Integra 7 is not, as usual" low quality, cause Integra 7 is not "usual" sound module. In it's GM2 Bank
are at most Super Natural Sounds !!!Also, you can made your own "GM Bank" in Integra 7, or some different GM Banks !!!
We discus here about usage of some workstation with vArranger2, and vArranger2 make all Style formats sound-compatible
to GM or GS or GM2 or XG or Ketron standard, don't  forget it. It is one of the best functions of vArranger2. Also one amazing
features of vArranger² is to use Instrument Definitions (for hardware and software instruments) that make possible to
choice any one sound program from any one Instrument on Style Tracks without GM, GM2, GS, XG or any other standard,
simply choice the sound what you need on one Style track from Instrument Definition file, you don't need to worry about
midi standards. Save this Style so, and... that's it !!!

It is not so important how many Sound Programs has one hardware workstation, it is most important how good are sounds
what it has !!! Ketron SD40 has very good Sound Engine, SD1000 also. This Sound Engines sounds very "Live" and very natural.

Also hardware instruments have one OS and it is by "big" instruments also 
complex like on software platform. It is nothing strange for newer generations
of digital synths, workstations, arrangers... that sometimes happens even crashs
from complexer hardware instruments OS. It isn't wonder, both "worlds" have
simmillar requrements !!!

You wrote Yamaha Motif, Roland Integra 7... there are two instruments from
different generations. Motif is one konventional Workstation with tousends of
sound programs, but with small Sample ROM (best Motif XF only 741MB ROM).
Roland Integra 7 the newest instrument generation with not to compare more ROM.
Roland Integra 7 is one specially class of Rompler. It has huge ROM (Sound Chip)
and can be measured with VST Instruments cause it has not only the big Sample
Content, there are  also many other functions like on VST instruments. It is a
complette Rolands sound expirience in 2HE 19", in a very high quality level.
Integra is some other hardware instruments class !!! It is like a bridge between
software and hardware instrument worlds. It has new Rolands Super Natural
Sounds, plus Rolands "X" and "G" Workstation Series sounds, and last but not
least, all 12 SRX Cards. Integra 7 is a big library of Rolands history and the best
actual sounds. Only 12 SRX Expansion Cards are 768MB ROM, than about 350
Rolands Super Natural Accoustic Sounds, everyone  with about 10 Velocity Switch
and Midi Control Layers, after that, Super Natural Synth Sounds from the best
Vintage Synths (Juno, JP8, JP80, JD, VP-330, Oberheim, SH-101, Yamahas FM
Synths, MC202...) 1.088 also multilayered sounds, and than about 5.000 PCM
Sounds from Fantom "X" and "G" instruments (whole Sound ROM). It is one
hardware instrument with very big sample ROM, I shall say, the bigest to time.
Also Yamahas new Montage is one instrument with about 5GB Sample ROM and
many functions like on the best software VST instruments, Korg Kronos is one
hardware Workstation with first class sound quality and about 4GB big Sample ROM.
By the way, vArranger² and f.E. Integra 7 can be "unbeatable duo". It should be
Midi Bank and PCG Routing configured  and you will have powerfull arranger with
excelent sound from Integra and you can improve all this with a few good VSTi-s.
It will be much better as the best hardware arranger on the market to time !!!

This new hardware instruments with "touch" and quality of software VSTi-s
with the big Sample ROMs, excellent effects and very flexible Modulations
Matrix, are the first wave of one new concept of hardware electronic instruments,
which try to be competitive to the best VST instruments !!! Previous generation
of hardware instruments, like Yamaha Motif or Korg Triton with 10 or 20 times smaller 
sample ROM, consistently low budget effects and simply modulation matrix is to
far from the quality and possibilitys of VSTi instruments.

Conclusion is that only very small number of newest hardware instruments can be
so powerfull like good VST instruments on perfect audio tweaked Windows.

Also "programming" can by hardware instruments, be very, very complex, like
by good VSTs. Maybe it is a best choice to stay "hybrid", to play hardware and
software instruments together, to have the best of both worlds.

Quote from: olivier71500 on June 23, 2017, 09:13:38 AM
Can you explain me why hardware keyboards use so few ressources ( particularly memory) comparing to VST instruments ?
And we don't have problem with latency , audio problems , gliches ....
Does the problem come from VST programmation ? windows ?
olivier

There are a few important resons for all that what you wrote. First, one hardware
sound instrument has Sound Chip (in a newest generation mostly about 512MB
or 750MB, sometimes also 1GB). The best hardware instruments have 5GB, 6GB,
7GB... ROM samples (f.e. Korg Kronos, Roland Integra 7... ). This Sound Chip
is very fast and Multisamples are "branded" in this Sound Chip. It needn't to load
the samples everytime !!! They are based on Multisample waveforms and one
waveform can be used in many Sound Programs of instrument. But this samples
are (except of the bigest hardware instrments Kronos, integra...) short and mostly
in a 16Bit technology. Sound quality is far from briliant sound quality of best VST
Instruments. Software instruments (like NI Kontakt as sampler) can play a huge
sounds with 4,..5,....9,..10 and more GBs in a best 24Bit quality, but so huge
sounds must be loaded in a RAM of PC,  not the whole samples, but only Attack
phase of every sample is loaded in RAM, and other part via DFD (Direct from Disc)
sample streaming in a short time of playing this Attack phase wich is loaded in a
RAM. It is very complex proccess.

But, you can have all this amazing sounds, nearly without Latency (this latency
you can't hear), without glitches, crackles, etc... etc.. but, it is very expencive.
You must have a very fast CPU, huge RAM (32GB and more), and very, very fast
storage (best M.2 with over 4.000MB/sec in RAID 0). The system must be very
good and clean tweaked, only for audio, and you must have one of the best audio
interfaces. Only in this case, you can play software instruments in a best quality
very far from sound quality of hardware instruments. Trans Audio make this systems
for professional live playing with the best software instruments (without latency,
glitches etc...). You can hear a few demos on this forum from Trans Audio system
(on Facebook of vArranger²) or direct on Trans Audio Forum where you can hear
many, many egsamples of Ketron, Yamaha, Korg and Roland Styles in the best quality.
http://transaudio.forumprofi.de/view-topic-trans-audio-styles-demos-t403.html

One of the best news !!! I have tested and it is 100% OK.

It sound (demo from the link) like a Tyros very, very "HiFi"
and it is bad. No one Drum Kit sound so on the stage !!!

Unfortunately yes !!!That's cause Kontakt is very complex and
every one parameter inclusive all Scripts must be loaded !!!

This what Lylo wrote is the only alternative for middle power systems.
With "Read from RAM" in Indepedence you have no problems with
noices and cracles by "on flay" Style change, but for big instruments
from Indepedence Content, you must have much RAM (32GB and
more) when you will to load the best Indepedance sounds in a same
time. Intel i7-2600k with 16GB RAM and 2 SSD in RAID 0 protokol
is one good middle power system, but not enough good for playing
and changing Styles in vA² without play stop with Indepedence as
only one Sound Engine for vArranger². I wrote about high power
systems from newest generation, f.e. i7-6800K it has PassMark over
13.600 points and i7-2600K has only 8.480 PassMark points. It is
very, very big differnce. It is so that i7-6800K is like two i7-2600K in
one CPU. It is not only PassMark points difference, it is also 15MB
cache vs 8MB cache, than DDR4 vs DDR3, also 28 vs 16 PCIe-Lines,
6-Cores vs 4-Cores and very important Memory Band 76,8GB/sec vs
only 21GB/sec. Than it is big difference between 1.000MB/sec and
about 4.000MB/sec storrage speed. I wrote that all can minimized noices,
but not eliminate it at all when your Style need very big indepedance
Instruments. Also in high power systems must be played in "hybrid" modus
like Lylo wrote, but you have more headroom, cause you can play DFD
more big instruments, not all !!! The best compromisse is to load Drum
Kits and maybe Bass sounds in memory and other acc. sounds DFD.
Kontakt with its Instruments Banks is better choice, but also for that
you must have big RAM for many high quality sounds.

Quote from: olivier71500 on June 18, 2017, 12:52:18 PM
@agaton : your are right . I just make the test
But What kind of data does Kontakt load in memory in addition to samples ?
even if the samples are not loaded the next times it takes a lot of memory 

All this data are only Instrument Parameters and it is many, many events. Data about
every sample (level, pan...), LFO, ADSR, Insert and Send Effects, than eventually some
Scripts etc... etc... Kontakt load all this data for every instrument in every Instrument
Bank. Instrument can be the same with same samples, but Kontakt load all data for every
one.

From Kontakt Vrsion 4.3.2 it is past tense !!! Kontakt 5 load only one time
the same samples, you can load the same Insrument 128 times but samples
will be load only one time. You have to define "DFD" as instrument mode.

This noice come from change of multisamples (on fly), by Program Change events. It can
be minimized with very, very fast storrage (RAID M.2 with 4.000MB/sec), also very  fast
memory (PC 3.000) and the best CPU. It is very expensive game. Indepedence is inovative
and exclent platform but not without mistakes. Realy good software sampler Sound Engine
for vA² is Emulator X3. It has no breaks, pauses or noises by "on Fly" Style Change, cause
it has perfect Sample Streaming (DFD) and do it realy as one hardware sound midi module.

SampleTank NO !!!

SampleTank is not the best choice as Sound Engine for vArranger² cause
it not "know" nothing about Midi Bank and Program Change events. The
second reason is to much time to load instruments, so it isn't possible to
change between Styles "on fly" without breaking of play some sounds from
SampleTank in the next Style. Diametrically opposite is Hypersonic 2 VSTi, also
one multitimbral VSTi (16 Midi channels like a SampleTank) but with possibility
to manipulate with Bank (CC#32, LSB) and Program Change, and it not need
time to load instruments (sounds). As result, it is possible to make one Style with
some sounds from Hypersonic 2 and save it as new Style. Playing and changing
between the Styles will be doing without any breaking or pause.

... and when you have one of the top audio interfaces and top computer configuration,
than is also the latency the same or sometimes shorter as by hardware instruments.
This highst level of audio gear is naturaly very expensive, but than, you have no limit.
You can configure your Sound Engine for vArrnger² from the best VST instruments and
VST effects.

You can download all files from this site,
only as vArranger² user !!!

That's will be very usefull !!!

Du hast die neueste Version. Es steht nicht "Beta" oder
ähnliches bei Version Nummer. Einfach probiere ob dein
vArranger² auch mit Technics Styles kompatibel ist, wenn
ja, dann hast du die neueste Version.

Yes, it is made only for vArranger².

Hahahaha... no, no, I am here !!!

It is available.

Nichts zu danken Wolfgang, hauptsache das du jetzt spielen kannst
und ganze Technik ein wenig bei seite schieben.

Ja das geht wunderbar ohne wenn und aber !!! Einfach lade ein VST Hall
auf FX1 oder FX2 und dan hast du pro Track zwei AUX Knobs (FX1 und FX2)
das Level von den Hallanteil für jedes Track zu bestimmen !!!

Quote from: Woge1000 on May 02, 2017, 03:24:10 PM
OK Dan, diese 3 Schieber möchte ich 0.Confic Setup ist 127
Ich möchte nicht Linke Hand mit vArranger.Ist das möglich?
Beim speichern l Hand oder Safe all, immer kommt der Schieberegler hoch nicht 0
Wenn man VST Sounds nicht mit speichern kann, brauche ich als Begleit Automat diese L Hand nicht.
So kann ich meine alten Wersi Setup´s weiter nutzen und wechsel nur im vArranger die Styles.
Im Wersi OAS habe ich ja VST Sounds.Ich habe wohl ein anderes Nutzen vom vArranger.
Wolfgang

Wolfgang, ich habe dir, weiter oben, schon alles sehr, sehr ausfürlich beschrieben !!!

Bilder hochladen geht's auch sehr leicht. Es steht im
Manual von vArranger² ziemlich gut erklärt. Du sollst
im jeden Style Ordner die sich im Überordner für Styles
"StylesROM1" (vArranger2 > vArrangerData > Styles)
befinden, ein Unterordner mit dem Namen "SCORE"
erstellen. In diesen Ordner packst du alle deine Bilder,
aber die einzigen Bilder müssen genau das gleiche Name
tragen wie der Style den die zugeteilt werden sollen.

Unten habe ich in drei Bilder ganzen Prozess erklärt:

Zwar verstehe ich nicht warum du das brauchst (deswegen hatte dich
bis jetzt auch niemand verstanden) aber das geht ganz leicht und es
ist kein Fehler von vArranger² sondern wieder zu tausenden mal "Faktor
Mensch". Du bekommst es auf links (L Sounds) wenn du zum erst auf
Master Left Fader klickst und oben auf dunkelrote "OFF" gehst und dann
wenn du willst das es auch optisch diese Einstellung richtig darstellt, zu
jeden Sound Fader (Left Sounds) auf null und auf "off" stellst. Damit hast
du garantiert beim nächsten hochfahren von vArranger² alle Left Sounds
wieder so wie gehabt. Beim rechten Sounds du musst zum erst anfangen
richtig damit zu arbeiten, und das bedeutet nicht mit einzeln markierten
Right Sounds sonder mitt User Sounds. Die sind einzig richtige Arbeitsweise.
Genau wie beim Korg mit Performances oder beim Yamaha mit Registrationen.
Einzelne Right Sounds sind nur Layers von einem User Sound oder Multi.
In diesen Fall bekommst du immer normal, von dir eingestellte Level  von
einzelnen Sounds und somit auch beim jedem hochfahren von vArranger²
auch kein erschreckend lautes Sound, sonder von dir editierte Right User
Sound. Du kannst sogar ein Right Sound ohne einen einzigen aktivierten
Right Sound abspeichern, obwohl mir immer noch der Zweck rätselhaft ist.
Hauptsache ist das im Play Modus,  sollte immer der Master Right fader markiert
sein.

I am sure that most of commands on the Skin can
be implement, and it can be "not only one dream".

vArranger² ist zurzeit, bei weitem, das beste Arranger
überhaupt !!! Damit  meine ich, sowohl Software als auch
Hardware. Es sind unzählige Möglichkeiten von vArranger²
die Meilen weit von anderen Arrangers sind, nur muss man
die alle kennen und richtig ausnutzen. Fast alles was ab und
zu nicht mit VST Instrumenten klappt ist Mangel von VST-s und
nicht von vArranger².

Dan, it is not the Wolfgangs problem. He sad that he
has, from time to time, Volume deviations in Style Level
and he must to increase Volume Level than come little
later it to loud, and so long, and so long...



@Wolfgang

So was ist bei mir niemals aufgetreten, unter keinen früheren, und
auch nicht in aktuellen Version. Ich habe auch von niemanden etwas
ähnliches gehört. Es bleibt nur die Möglichkeit das bei deinem Setup
etwas nicht in Ordnung ist, und vielleicht dein Mayterkey sendet von
sich aus, irgendwelche Midi Befehle auf die, du keine Kontrolle hast.
Einfach das ist nicht möglich unter normalen umständen !!!

Ich glaube, ich habe dir schon geschrieben das abspeichern von VST Sounds in einem User Sound
von vArranger² ist schon möglich und geht wunderbar aber nur mit VST Multitimbralen instrumenten
wie z.B. Hypersonic 2 oder NI Kontant 5 (der speziell als Multitimbrale instrument konfiguriert ist).
Mit Halion geht das nicht einfach deswegen das Halion  kan nicht als ein richtiges Multitimbrales Instr.
arbeiten. Zwar du kanst in Halion gleichzeitig 16 Midi Kanäle gleichzeitig haben und spielen, aber
der kennt kein Program Change Midi Befehl und kann nicht nach PCG Befehl vershiedene Instrumente
laden. Deswegen auch kann man nicht seine Sounds mit ins User Sound vom vArranger² abspeichern
da der immer diesen Sound spielen  wurde der du auf adequatem Midi Kanal geladen hast !!! Probiere
es mit Hypesonic 2 und gleich siehst du das es wunderbar geht, natürlich unter vorausätzung, du hast
den Sound von Hypersonic 2 mit richtigen Bank und Program Nummer in User Sound von vArranger²
gespeichert.

@Wolfgang

Ich bin sicher das was haweneu schrieb ist das lösung deines Problems.
Deine Wersi Pedal sendet keine Midi daten (in diesen Fall Midi CC#11),
sondern ist ganz einfache Volumen Pedal (electro - mechanisch)  für dein Wersi,
genau so wie ein Volume Potentiometer. Do sollst ein normales Expression Pedal
nehmen.

Wenn das Wersi Schweller auch Midi Controller CC#11 sendet
(Expression) dan ist überhaupt kein Problem, du must da nur
in Options > Controllers den Controller 11 zuteilen da wo du
willst das es wirkt (Right Volume, Right Expression, Left Volume,
Left + Right Volume... usw...). 

The best to time is "StyleMagic YA" !!! Than
"Style Maker" (free) with XG Works as detail
external Editor (started from Style Maker, not
stand alone) and only, but only as Style Editor
old OMB 10 (very, very bad as arranger).

Why only StyleWorks It's many good Style editors
for Yamaha Style format on the market, also free !!!

@Wolfgang

Es ist sehr einfach. Wie haweneu schrieb, du sollst immer mit
User Sounds arbeiten und dann gibt es kein Problem. Genau
wie  man mit einem Hardware Instrument arbeitet (Performance
bei Korg und Roland, oder Registry bei Yamaha usw...). Es muss
immer Master Right Fader akiviert sein (rot) und nicht die einzelne
Right Sounds. Eigentlich ist die Struktur des Sounds gleich wie
bei einem Hardware Instrument, auch dort spelt man rechte Hand
nicht mit Grundsounds (Layers) sondern mit schon erwänten Performances
oder Registrys. Da können die einzelne Sounds (Layers) editiert werden
(Volume, Panorama, Effect Anteil, Transpose, LFO, ADHSR, Filter usw...)
und dann als User Sound gespeichert werden und danach abgerufen.
Jeder von 4 einzelne Right Sounds hat sein Bank und Program Change
Nummer und sendet auf seinem Midi Kanal.

Es ist in vArranger2 Synth so (very, very inteligent) das nur eins SF2 Instrument
kann mit den selben MSB, LSB und PCG sein, sonst es wird nur der erste erkannt.
Das heist alle deine Instrumenten in kompletten SF2 Sound Engine in vArranger2
"SAMPLES" ordner, sollen veschiedene MSB, LSB und PCG Nummern haben. Nur dan
kanns du die alle sehen.

It will be also good to start Hypersonic in Compatibile Modus
as in Windows XP (Service Pack 2). That was also the time when
Hypersonic 2 came on the market. In newest Windows 10
Anniwesary 1607 it is very, very helpfull !!!

Ich habe den Hypersonic 2, das ist kein Problem,
es war mir nur dieses "eigene Content" interessant,
aber jetzt ist mir alles klar. 

Lylo, Multiclient Audio Card resolve the problem (on this way
I made complete Trans Audio serie). That's the way, without
exception !!! Than... only than... with Multiclient Audio Card it
is possible, what you wrote, to make one audio link between
two programs. The second choice is one Audio Card with Audio
Matrix where you can absolutely free connect or disconnect every
Audio Input to every Audio Output (f.e. RME Babyface, UC, UCX,
FF802 or Motu new AVB serie). By this Audio Cards you don't need
any virtual audio cable to connect audio streems from both progs,
you can do it in Audio Matrix from Audio Card !!!

@bluebeat
In low budget level, Presonus 22VSL, and in middle level RME Babyface.
The high level is very, very big und all of that have Multiclient ASIO !!!

Hypersonic2 mit deinen eigenen Content !!!
Um was geht es da ?

Nein, ich wollte dich nicht testen, ich habe dir nur demonstriert was mann mit
Software Sounds und vArranger2 bekommen kann. Da ist ein hardware instrument
einfach zu schwach und unmächtig diesen Qualität und Quantität paroli zu bietten.
Ich habe dir schön geschrieben, man kann Presets auch vom VST Instrumenten
in vArranger2 editieren und abspreichern und alles für jede einzelne Track, Style,
Left, Right. Es ist überhaupt kein Problem, nur die VST instrumente müssen alle
Multitimbral sein oder zumindest Bank und Program Change verstehen. Das kann
man z.B mit Hypersonic 2 wunderbahr machen, oder einigen Software Workstations
von Korg (M1, Wavestation), dan aber auch mit Kontakt 5 in einem speziellen Modus
wo es wie ein Multitimbrale Instrument arbeitet. Ich glaube es ist mehr als genug
VST Instrumenten schon bereit für perfekten Zusamenarbeit mit den vArranger2.
Wenn man nur an alle Kontakt 5 Librarys denkt, nur das wäre ausreichend !!! Da sind
hunderte oder tausende von GB-s  besten Sounds die man heute kriegen kann. Was
braucht man mehr als Sound Engine für vArranger2,

Nein, nein... !!! Ich habe dieses Sound Engine speziell für Arbeit mit
vArranger gemacht, da der vArranger2 so zu sagen zentrale Aplikation
in meinen Trans Audio Systemen ist. Natürlich sind noch mehrere Audio
Programme gleichzeitig am Werk da Trans Audio sehr komplexe und
mächtige Audio Workstationen sind. Die Sounds sind alle Sampling Sound
Programme, sehr penibel und sauber mit EQ-s, Compressor usw. editiert.
Es sind Unmenge von Samples in diesen Sound Engine. Deswegen auch
habe ich so ein Qualität bekommen.

So kann nicht aber ein Hardware SD2 klingen, das geht aus technischen
Gründen nicht, aber es hört sich genug gut wenn man es in seinem SD2
Modus spielen läst.

Why than Reastreem ? This is Ethernet Synchronize Tool !!! Anywhere,
which DAW or recording program you use ? vArranger2 send Midi Clock
as Synchro signal. It means that recording software must have the
same Synchro metode as a Synchro input. To time it is very rare !!!

@Lylo

Reastreem isn't very good and can make many problems.
You have two Computers and you will to synchronize this !!!
The best solution is ipMIDI software. You have 5 Ethernal
Midi Ports and all funct like with LoopBe30. ipMIDI is from
the same producer and 100% stable !!!

@bluebeat


Only one way, go to Link what I wrote and download
either software what Lylo said (Voicemeter) or this
"Banana". This aplications are 4-time Multiclient and
with this ASIO Streems you will be able to play and
recording in a same time vArranger and Sonar, and if
you need some other audio software you can make it 
also. It is no other way, you must have one software
what make normal Monoclient Driver to MultiClient ASIO
Driver.

Last ruhig Modus auf SD2 wenn Ketron SD2 Sound Engine ist.
Dan hat komplexe Midi Routing in vArranger2 gemacht, so das
du mit SD2 in seinem Modus alle Styles sehr gut spielen kannst.
Ob Ketron, Yamaha, Roland oder Korg, es wird alles konsequent
und vor allem mit richtigen Instrumenten, Dank erwänten routing
wiedergeben. Diese Midi Routing gilt nicht nur für Bank und Program
Change sondern auch für einzelne Noten bei Sound Programen
die bei Yamaha zu MegaVocises und bei Korg zu RX sound gehören.
Es wird alles automatisch richtig gestellt werden. Das dass alles
wunderbar geht mit Sound Engine die immer im SD2 Modus ist und
sogar alle sounds sind software sounds sind, gleich  unten sind paar
Demos die sind mit einem Software Sound Engine gemacht, der sehr
nahe SD2 Sound ist, und den ich für meine Trans Audio Instrumente,
gemacht habe und in diesen Systemen, benutze. Es hört man gleich wie
druckvoll und "Live" alles das drubergeht. Die Styles sind won allen
etablierten Anbieter (Ketron, Yamaha, Korg, Roland) und alles im
SD2 Modus gespielt. Alles was du unten hörst ist Software Sound !!!


Country Beat



Country Pop



Bluegrass



Country Dixie



Country Fox



Western



Kramer 



Funk 1



Organ-Pop




Gospel 




Pop Char





Pop Rock




Slap Funk




R & BLUES   




FUNK




SWING




Big Band Fox

No bluebeat, this aplications are system aplications from
Windows !!! I wrote one Link for you and Lylo also, that is
the same aplication in two versions.

I know Lylo I wrote Link to one of this programs same like you.

No, with WASAPI it is not  possible to play two or more
aplications (programs) in the same time, because it is not
Multiclient Audio Driver. You must have one external Audio
Interface (with Multiclient ASIO or more ASIO streams) to
be able to use more audio programs together. You can try,
this Audio Card from Surface will be occupied from the first
aplication  which is on. When you acitivate vArranger2 as
first and than Sonar, vArranger2 will be played without problem
but Sonar will be stay ohne Audio and vice versa.

You can try with one little aplication that make WASAPI from
some internal sound cards to Multiclient cards but it funct not
with all sound cards:

http://vb-audio.pagesperso-orange.fr/Voicemeeter/banana.htm

Nein, es geht nicht, sonst würde ich dir das detailliert
erklären, statt Alternative mit Software Midi Processor
zu empfehlen.

@bluebeat

It is no problem to route audio signal from vArranger2 to Sonar
but your Sound Engine for vArranger2 must be in Sonar (SF2 or
any VST Instrument). You  have to route Midi Out Channels in
Sonar respective Midi Channels in vArranger2. Only on this way
Style Tracks will be played from Instruments in Cakewalk and also
recorded as Midi or as Audio, that is your choice !!! Simply, Sonar
will be in this case, your VST Host and audio or/and midi recorder.

Ja, du kannst es. Das ist kein Problem !!! Ich werde
trotzdem LoopBe30 empfählen wenn du auf einem
Win 64Bit arbeitest. Und dieses Windows. du hast
ein Win 7 drauf !!! Wäre viel, viel besser ein Win 10
natürlich 64Bit zu benutzen, und den ein bischen für
Audio Arbeit zu Tweaken, es ist nicht viel und geht
schnell, aber dafür bekommst du absolute Stabilität
und mehr performance.

@Livio5
Wie ich vermutet habe. Es geht !!! Alles geht, das und viel, viel mehr,
aber mit hilfe eines Software Midi Prozessors, wie z.B. Cantabile 3
ist. Mit so einem program kannst du Midi Kannäle, Midi Controls und
alles was zum Midi gehört, verendern, umwandeln, routen... usw.
Allerdings, bei dir wird es ein bischen knapp wegen zu kleinen ROM.
Natürlich ist ein V-Accordeon viel bessere Midi Controller als manche
Masterkeyboards. Es ist einfach mächtiger. Ich benutze abwechselnd
FR3X und FR8X. Kein Masterkey hat gegenüber den was zu "sagen".

In Sachen PA600 zu sägen und zu Midi Modul zu machen, es geht, aber
Frage ist warum Wenn es um ein Hardware Sound Engine geht,
für etwas mehr Geld, bekommst du um weiten bessere Sound Qualität
ohne zu sägen und zu bastelln. Sagen wir Roland Integra 7. Mit seinem
SuperNatural Sound Engine ist zur Zeit das beste Sound Modul überhaupt.
Neben den Super Natural Sounds, da sind auch alle 12 SRX Karten (die
hier viel besser klingen wegen ungehäuer besseren Audio Technologie)
und nebenbei, auch alle Original Presets von ganzen Fantom G serie.
Sound Qualitet von über 6.000 Presets ist auf höchstem Level und auch
Audio Eingeschäften  wie: Symetrische Ausgänge und Eingänge, Digital
Ausgang, 8 Einzellausgänge, und sehr guten AD/DA Wandlern, die wirklich auf
professionellen Level sind. Als das nicht genug wäre, Integra 7 ist gleichzeitig
auch ein sehr schnelles USB Audio Interface !!!

Das geht noch nicht ganz, aber demnächst. Es ist zwar möglich, beim
VST Instrumenten die Multitimbral sind und beherschen Midi Program
und Bank Change (wie z.B. Hypersonic 2 oder speziell konfigurierte
NI Kontakt) ganz normal verschiedene Sound Programe von dehnen
in einem vArranger User Sound zu Speichern, aber zu zeit, wie gesagt
nur bei solchen Instrumenten.

Livio5 es ist kein Problem den Hauptbass von V-Akkodeon einen anderen Midi Kanal
zu zuordnen. Default ist Hauptbass an V-Akkordeon auf Midi Ch. 2 gestellt. Du kannst
am V-Akkordeon beliebige Midi Kanal dem Hauptbass zuteilen. Frage ist was du damit
zu tun willst. Es ist viel möglich aber auf diesen Rechner, wegen seinem sehr, sehr
begrenztem Arbeitsspeicher, es ist nich gerade viel möglich, auser es handelt sich um
ein Hardware Instrument oder Modul.

Einfach auf SAVE, dan SONG und Style ist schon
gespeichert.

In der Sache mit 32Bit PlugIns und vArranger2 in 64 Bit Modus muss du
über jBridge alle 32Bit VST PlugIns bearbeiten und neue 64Bit Versionen
von den VST PlugIns in einen neuen Folder den du kreieren must in
Program Files mit den Namen "VSTplugins" von den jBridge generieren lassen.
Das gilt auch für Hypersonic 2, aber auch für alle anderen 32Bit VST Plugins.
Die neuen 64Bit Versionen sollen niemals in denselben Ordner mit 32Bit
VSTplugins sein !!!

Da kannst du PA600 Instrument Definition herunterladen:

https://sites.google.com/site/midimusa/Korg_PA600.zip?attredirects=0

Sei unbesorgt, warscheinlich ist Dan über Ostern kurz weg.

Es geht alles was du willst. Du kannst beide instrumenten als
Sound Engines benutzen. Ich habe Instrument Definition File
für Korg PA600 und ich kann es dir per mail versenden.

Which keyboard is your masterkeyboard ? Maybe you haven't
change Midi on masterkey to Local Of.

@stewbow

Which Surface Pro have you. CPU ? RAM ?

Stop with lies man. It is enough. If you bought software, post
the Bill, or PayPal transaction Nr. or something simmilar, but...
you have nothing. You have only the big mouth and that must be
stopped !!!

Dan, this members have to be banned immiedately from Forum.

Thanx !!! Styles are good, typical Technics
but they all have error: "Bad Style Header"
on vA2 v.1.17.96 and Win 10 64Bit !!!

@musiker-playboy

Please write detailed what is the problem. I am
shure we can help you. But not forget to write
whole specification of PC hardware !!! It is very,
very important.

No probs with 1.4 software. All OK, play normaly
without polyphonic problem like by 1.1, or legato
problem when more Right sounds play mnophonic
with Portamento.

No, no... I mean only first row of Drum Mixer!!! It funct also
with normal SF2 Drum Kit but only till vArranger2 active is.
After a new vArranger2 go up, Style "forget" all changes. Thats
mean, all this controls are not saved in a Style !!! You can test it
and I am shure you can make it, to be saved with Song (Style) Save.
I don't mean on all specific controls in Drum Mixer, only on first row
of Mixer !!!

Cause of that I am shure it is very important function.

I understand !!! It will be very good but... Maybe only nor constantly
saving of Drum Mixer parameters (only top row) in Style and it is perfect.

Quote from: Dan on October 28, 2015, 02:49:54 PM
I have a good news for you, the next coming vArranger version will have 4 MIDI INPUT !!!!!

I hope also 4 Midi Outs !!!

No, no, you are in right, not Note Lenght retrigering !!!
Only Note On but till bar end.

1+

Barry, Barry... it is a big shame to read what you wrote. I am developer
who use vArranger software, as major aplication in all of my instruments.
I am co-worker in Yamahas and Rolands develompent stuff over 20 years.
I can all of actual hardware arrangers from all of big four producer. I can
say to you, you are 404 with your nebulous theory. Simply, you haven't
got a clue about all what you wrote !!! vArranger2 is a few times better,
as a top hardware arrangers. It is ergonomical, functional, stable like a 
stone, but regardless open for amazing new functions. Stop to write about
something what you have no frigging idea !!! 

It is only just your second post on vArranger
Forum and in a both posts you wrote the same
thing. Have you really nothing better to write
or ask about vArranger2 software ?
It is not "unheard" !!! It is only securely for
author and for us, legal users. Author send
new updates also without asks. Don't worry
you will become every update like all of us !!!

Very good, and very usefull !!!

You can use it with vArranger2 Synthesizer, or on one of SF2 Player
or synthesizer. There were many free aplications for SF2 files, I send
to you today, one new WersiMatic WM24 DrumKit, that is edited for
playing in vArrangeur2 or any VST PlugIn for Drum SF2 instruments.
It has 128:026 Bank and Program Change number, and it is one "free"
place on GM/XG Standard .

Yes, this is a normal procedure. When you are finshed
editing of Style, than go to Save > Song, and this Style
will be always come with all sounds from Midi 1; 2 and 3
like you edited it. Amazing !!!

Yes !!! You can now change sounds of VB3, normal over Sound Editor in
vArranger2 like on picture in my last post. vArranger2 is one miracle !!!

You have to save also PCG on this channel in Sound Editor of
this track in vArranger2. This PCG nummer must be the same
like PCG nummer of Preset in VB3. First go to VB3 in Global
Options Menu and enable Receive Midi Program Change
function. Than is all OK !!! Than you can change VB3 direct in
Sound Editor of vArranger2 and save it as Right or Left Sound.

Nektar iX61 and Nektar LX 61 haven`t conventional Midi In/Out Interface
and you can`t use them for Midi thru function with Behringer FCB1010. For
this setup with Nanocontrol you need nor one Midi In or you buy one Key
with Midi In/Out Interface !!!

Dan is it possible to add one Midi In and one Midi Out ? It can be very usefull
in big Setups with more Keys and Controllers and with more hardware synths.

Quote from: Dan on June 18, 2015, 08:52:15 AM
I don't know what is this story about ' Program Change and Midi Convert of some Midi events ' Maybe Agaton can explain it to me.

Dan it is nothng so grandious, It is old story about Routed Midi Commands in some Modus (GM, XG, SD2, SD1000...) there are  only bagatelle events. It is nothing big or fundamental. I shell contact you cause of that in the next time. I know it will be very lite for you to make. Don`t worry about it.

Yes !!! In Solo sounds part, when on more as one sound, mono and portamento enabled is,
than play SD1000 so like I constant play one very low note, and cause of portamento
by playing with right hand, it sounds  by every note one long portamento (from this "fictive
low note" to note which I play in this moment).

The second Bug is low polyphony, but only when SD1000 play also the second Drum track
(Midi Channel 9). When second Drum track play f.E. SF2 or any Drum VST it is all OK with
polyphony.

There are two Bugs what I had with Update 1.1. I had in a same time two of SD1000 and by SD1000
without Update was all OK, only Chord Transition was not so like on ver. 1.1.

They are now wit new thread but the same question... hahahahaha !!!
Maybe i have to write also hier, one post with big font about "Trial".

I would say, it is better to power SD1000 via mains + transformer, as
only via USB, specially by  laptops or desktops with poor performance.

Soltons support is very, very slow. Upgrade 1.1 with many Bugs, stay
about one year and they do nothing !!! I have tested SD1000 vs Roland
Fantom XR with 2 SRX Cards. SD1000 sounds better, much better. Cause
of that, it is even worse that Ketron is so slow with Upgraqdes.

@Lylo

Yes, you are in right about  Indendance FX, this is the first
VST Effects chainer that work very well and without any
cnacks and crackling. I have tested many VST Effects chainers,
but Independance FX is the first which make it  without any
one problem... and we know also, how good are Independance
VST PlugIns !!!

In Yamahas terminology: Chord Switching Tracks. Also other
producer have sub tracks. Only by Yamaha is not possible to edit
or create this Chord Switching tracks on instrument, it must be
done on one of Style Editor programs. By Korg it is no problem
to make it on instrument (arrangeur).

My apologize Tiziort, it is so what Lylo and Dan wrote. We have two sites with the same question about Demo of vArranger2, it is enough !!! Nobody read our posts and cause of that I wrote in so big font and hope that it will be enough big to read it before write again "...can we have zdemo of...". It was nothing, but really nothing against you !!!

Send it to me, I shall try !!!

- no Demo for vArranger2 software,
- no Beta Version for not-user of vA2.
- don't try to become something that not exist !!!

buy software and enjoy

I think, and Dan sad also, it will be in one of next Updates
in a form of Insert VST Effects for each track. It will be very
good. You can than insert one EQ VST on each track. But I
mean it will be also good for Compressors or Ambient for the
Drums tracks. You have EQ in SF2 Editor and you can edit
equalizer on Sound Program Editor. It is one very good in
Polyphone SF2 Editor. Maybe it is good idea to make more
VST effects on Master, because one is not enough. Maybe two
or better three in serial mode. EQ, Stereo Immager and one
Leveler.

Make one Leslie effect is a simple thing. Sound of one orgel make not its Leslie
but quality of sampled Pipes, than  tipicaly orgel effects like distortion or Spring
Hall, and last but not least, Ambient (Resonator) effect, if we speak about big church
orgel. It is not so difficult to make Wersi simmilar organ sounds, they are all with
some HiFi touch, with much Hall effect and sweetenes. We can test it. You give
me one audio example of one Wersi orgel sound, and I shall try to make it in SF2
or NI Kontakt fomat. 

Who say that ?

You can hear some of other sounds from TA Sound Engine in another
demos what Dan had put on vArranger Facebook site. They are all
other but not dull. TA Sound Engine sounds very raw and naturaly,
without HiFi sweetenes. I hate this manipulation of sounds with effects.
The ground samples and sound programs, must be autenticaly, but
also playable without effects. Thats mean, the sounds are good edited
and samples are clean, with perfect loop points. So sounds TA Sound
Engine, very direct and concrete, wit all artefacts of certain instrument !!!

When you can making shipping chiper I shall  buy immediately your SD1000 !!!

I am in Europe - Germany, I am sorry for it
but shipping from USA to Germany is very
expencive !!! Your price is almost OK.

What is your last price for Ketron SD1000 ?

Quote from: Phil on May 16, 2015, 02:18:42 PM
...Will you (mr. Agaton) or mr. Dan posting some betatesting sounds on YouTube...

I shall do it, no worry, you will have enough demos of TA Sound Engine !!!

LD Dave 8 XS is very good solution for you (but only this
model). There are 3 models and the quality is the same,
but the price is very different !!!

It is not a secret, programing of Controll Matrix progressing
very good, and I think, it will be finished about 20. Juni.

Babyface shure, but LD Systems 15 G3 wll be a little bit
to big for your living room. You can't give enough power
to G3 to be on "operating temperature", and as result,
you will haven't the best sound from LD 15 G3 !!! Maybe
it is strange for you, but it is normaly operating principle
of PA systems.

The best way is to test it all !!! Than you can decide
what you need, and what is enough good for you !!!
I shall only say, in any case, stay by RME Babyface
(old or new Pro version).

I have also one little Dave 8 XSW System for monitoring
in one of studio rooms. It sounds lite HiFi but not extrem,
and it is very loud for this room (about 60 square meters).

Thats right !!! LD Dave 8 is very, very good and cheap. I have 4 Dave 12
Systems, But Phil wrote that he has 2.000 Euro budget for one home PA
System. Cause of  that I wrote about Bose L1 Compact. He want very good
quality, and Bose is a top quality system.



@Phil

Bose L1 model II with  Tonematch is very, very high quality, but it is
not 2.900 Euro, becase you need 2 x L1 model II for stereo sound !!!
Cause of that is better 2 x Bose L1 Compact, you don't need so much
power for one living room. RME Babyface is also high quality audio
interface and it is enough for you. The new RME Babyface Pro is nor better !!!

Yes, RME UCX ist one of the best smaller Audio Interfaces on the market !!!
Dynamic range, THD, S/N Ratio etc... are specifcations  which say how god
or wors is one Audio Interface. Also minimal Latncy time is one parameter
which say us how fast is one Audio Interface and is it predestinated for live
audio processing. But for this minimal latency is also PC performace very
important. RME Fireface UCX has two very good MicPreamp in studio quality.
But the question is do you need so high quality audio interface. Dan wrote to
you that you don't need so many outputs and it is right. You need more outs
only when you on live performance, have to send main signal to monitoring
active speakers or to few parallel PA systems. It is right that quality of audio
signal is better on good audio interface, but for that you must have also very
good PA system to hear this difference.
Your question about one very good active PA system for your living room when
2.000 euro is not the limit I can answer again with one Bose System, for example
2 x Bose L1 Model II system with B2 bass subwoofer, price about 4.000 euro.
It has amazing sound, specific in so small spaces like your living room. When
you wish to have very best of Bose system than you need nor T1 Tone Match
Audio Engine from Bose. This is processor for L1 Model II System. You can
also double the subwoofer when you wont more bass. Read all of that on Boses site.

How big is the space for which you need active
PA system ?  Is this the same living room or... ?

Yes. RME Fireface UC or UCX (better couse of TotalMix FX with DSP in UCX which has LowCut, 3-Band Full Parametric EQ, Compressor and Auto Leveler) has  much more quality as Presonus Interfaces. RME ist state of art, because it is only one wich has ASIO Drivers direct brand in DSP of Interface and this Drivers are very, ver fast and 100% stable on minimum latencies. It has also very best Mic Preamps, one of best dynamic Range and THD. RME is one professional audio interface. New Firefaces are combined FireWire and USB.

About Active PA system (loudseakers), there were many good models of Active PA Systems. When You need this active system only for home use, and your budget is 2.000 euro than first what you have to testing is Bose L1 Compact. This is one portable Line Array System, andu you need 2 of them. Price is about 1.000 euro for one. The sound... the sound must you hear, it can't be explained. This sound of Bose Systems is completely new and it is not central like by other conventional PA Systems, it is in whole room with same level to hear. The sound wht you hear is realy from 20Hz to 20kHz. Simple test it (2 x L1 Compact Systems) and you will hear what I mind.  That wil bé a first choice for you, with budget of 2.000 euro. It is the best quality in this price range !!!

Native Instruments Audio 6 is good Audio Interface, and it will be make its job, but
you wrote about Audio Interface with excelent DA / AD Converter. Cause of that I
wrote about RME Interfaces. Audio 6 is good, but too far of "excelent" !!! Than is
maybe better to buy one Presonus 22VSL, or one used Presonus 44VSL, the best
solution, which has much better MicPreamps (XMAX) and better AD/DA converter as
Audio 6. With Presonus 44VSL you don't need to use mixer, because 44VSL has
mixer which is like Presonus StudioLive mixer, wit same effects, same EQ pro every
channel, and you have 4 Inputs, and 4 Outputs. When you play as One Man Band
than is this mixer inough for you. The Presonus Audio Interfaces are very stable,
and it is very important for Live gigs.

Don't worry about use of TA Sound Engine. You will be control TA Sound Engine
with amazing vArranger2 software and its commands. You will be use it very, very
good and in a half hour you will be "The big Boss". It is no any problem, TA Sound
Engine is Sample Content in SF2 format (Sample or Sound Program). You will be
use it better as one hardware sound modul. vArranger2 has total control about TA
Sound Engine.

I make whole audio systems based on vArranger2. This systems has many controls
(physial), for Style Part than for mixer etc... etc...

Conclusion is that you don't need to be angry about use of TA Sound Engine, this is
realy the best way to play with vArranger2. Dan has made this vArranger Synthesizer
which has more and better functions, as most hardware arrangers on the market.

Quote from: Phil on May 01, 2015, 08:35:44 AM... Agaton can you recommend a soundcard with excellent DA convertors, preferrable USB connected and this (you know me by now) at acceptable price?

4partmusic has wrote about one good Audio Interface (Focusrite). Focusrite has very good AD/DA converters with excelent S/N Ratio and Dynamic Rate for this price segment, but it has not Multiclient ASIO Drivers, and that can be in Live setup, a big problem. To say anything concrete about Audio Interface and AD/DA converters I must know, what is "resonable price" for you, because the price diapason is huge. I prefered anything from RME, but that has adequate price. When you will to have realy best quality Audio Interface with excelent AD/DA converters and fastest and stablest ASIO Driver, than is RME unavoidable. With USB Interface from newest genaration are FireFace 802, Fireface UFX, Fireface UC, Fireface UCX, Babyface and Babyface Professional and all of them are ultra fast USB High speed Audio Interfaces.  I don't know, how much money you will spend for one Audio Interface, and it will be good to write that, than I can advise you concrete

Yes Phil, TA Sound Engine still coming. All sounds are sampled and all
samples are full edited (sample start, sample end, loop start, loop end,
compress, x-fades and so long... and so long... They are in its Sound
Programs (first in Multisamples or layers). Only what is to do and what
I doing to time, when I time have is Modulation Matrix. This Modulation
Matrix must be compatibel with Sound Editor of vArranger2 for simple
and fast editing of Sound Programs in vArranger2. It is a lot of work !!!
The last part of the work (Modulation Matrix) is very tedious work, but
must be finished. I am allone in work with samples and sounds, because
it is so one job that I have to make allone from begining to the end. But
I work also in studio as ton-engineer  and musician, and I haven't so much
time, only on TA Sound Engine to do.

I have one technicaly based statement about sound presets. Producer of
hardware workstations are not so flexibel, they make their sounds always
from model to model with same fouls. Roland and Ketron are very good
with sounds of natural instruments, but synth sounds are not the first class,
Korg make all but nothing excelent although the best synthesis in their
arrangers, all sounds are so one middle thing, Yamaha have very good DA
converter on their arrangers and workstations and cause of that, sounds
better as other instruments with same quality of samples. We not need 
4.000 sound programs, we need maybe 200 or 300 but excelent sounds,
and this excellent sounds you can use in every pop song they will be good !!!
I try to make so one Sound Engine for vArranger2, with very good 512
sounds (or ten or twenty more). But I can't clone me two, three, four
time to be faster, please be patient, I need still a little bit time to finished
Modulation Matrix for this excellent sounds to be perfect !!!  You have heard
part of sounds from TA Sound Engine in demos on vArranger2 Facebook site.
Whole sound program contigent of TA Sound Engine will be with the same
quality like sounds in this demos, and user will make sound presets (Right
or Left sounds on vArranger2) very fast and without any problems, because
the basic sounds are high quality sounds. The best thing is, that this TA Sound
Engine will be not expensive, it will be cheaper as one normal VST instrument.

Your question is OK. There are a few sampled Ketron SD2,
but no one has sound quality and editing possibilities like
SD2. It can be made, and it can be also better as SD2, this
is no dilema, but nobody made it so serious till now.

Yes Phil !!! It is no problem. You can save your money, with TA Sound Engine,
because it will be much, much cheaper as SD1000. To time is SD1000 about 450 €
in Germany, TA Sound Engine will be only one part of this price. I can't say now the
price of TA Sound Engine, but it will be significantly more favourable as SD1000.
The sound quality of SD1000 is very well, and it is to my mind, and not only to my,
better as whole actual arranger loby !!! TA Sound Engine has the high quality sounds,
you can hear it on vArranger2 facebook site, and shure  they are  better as on SD1000.
Specialy Drum kits, Drums and Percussion Loops (about 500 Loops in 128 Sound
Programs on Bank 4 like on SD1000). Also all other sounds are maked in Emulator X3,
and than converted in SF2 format. Emulator X3 is the closest format to SF2, (they are
from same brand). So I had become high quality sounds, most of them with natural
resonator of realy instruments, or typical ambient of them. I would say, be patient, it
will be soon !!!

I know all about Linux, I don't said that is wrong OS for audio
but, it is nothing, but realy nothing of HQ software instruments
and audio programs what we can use for Linux. That is a problem,
a big problem and I as one developer, have not time to wait for
someone who will program all software instruments in a best
quality, what we have now for Windows and MAC. I have not so
much time to spend. Linux is for me "past tense" !!!

To your question. Yes, you can run both, ableton live and V-arranger
parallel, and in addition, for example, Studio One 2 Professional and
four or five instances of Kontakt 5 and few instances of Emulator X3
and... and.. and.. all of that will be work perfectly. We talk here about
one audio system with CPU clocked on 8 x 5.0GHz, 16 or 32GB RAM and
4 or 6 SSD discs in RAID 0 with 2.000 to 4.000MB/sec and all of that on
specialy tweaked Audio Windows. It is "row power" of best hardware to time !!!

I shall make some pictures and some specifications and also some demos
of one Trans Audio system model. To time you can go to vArranger2 facebook
site to hear some audio demos from Trans Audio.

This is only one intern format of MuseScore 2.0 program.
SF3 is compressed OCG, and only on MuseScore 2.0 can
be used.

Yes, there were Audio Interfaces and ADAT ADDA Converter to become
specific number of Input and Output channels, but without anyone DSP.
Computer CPU make a whole job, DSP Card is not needed !!! CPU is the
newest Intel i7 Processor clocked on maximum speed (@5GHz), with huge
power on minimal Latenc (1ms). And Audio Interfaces which we use must
be the best class (for example, one of them is RME Fireface 802 or similar).
Only with the best Audio Interfaces we can make all of that what I wrote !!!

I don't understand, which audio processor,
which audio card and what of channels ? 
Please try to explain.

Thanx silviuturcu !!!

Quote from: sdada on April 22, 2015, 08:41:40 PM
can be, can be....

Not "can be" it is !!!

Quote from: sdada on April 22, 2015, 08:41:40 PMAnd on a Linux.... You, probably, don't know but Yamaha Motif use Linux)))))

Yes I know that. I make customer engineering bei Yamaha Central for
Europe over ten years, it is closed to me, near Hamburg-Germany. It
is very simple to make Linux as one closed audio system and programed
it only to do what is needed to make one Motif !!! Our Audio Windows is
one total open system with thousands of different usages and to make so
one system as 100% stable audio workstation is a very big job. I said that
is open system, it means that user can instal Plugins or programs. On Yamaha
Motifs Linux it is not possible !!! That is a very big major difference !!!

Lionstrax was very bad and on Linux System make man no audio !!!
Very, very poor contigent of audio programs, effects and instruments.
There were a few attempts to make so one big and stable music
workstation, for live and studio, but basicaly problem was to make
stable Audio Windows. We have made groundwork: a perfect OS and
it was the term to made one very flexible, and complex music
workstation. It has minimal latency of 1ms (by poliphony of over
500 voices, with all effects and dynamic tools from digital mixer) and
make its job without any problem. On tests it played with full power,
a few days and nights withot pause, but also without any disturbs. 
I splend over 15 years on this idee, and just now are hardware
and software on the level what I need to implement and enforce all
what I wont to have. Specialy thanx to vArranger2, which is a major
aplication on Trans Audio instruments.
 

Highest power Audio Computer as Sound Module with
vArranger2, Digital Mixer (8, 16, 24... 52 channels),
Audio and Midi Recorder, Style editor... By big models
is one 27" Multitouch Screen on board. It is on specialy
edited Windows 8.1 not after instalation, but before on
instal Windows DVD. All of aplications and services which
have no essentiality to do with audio, were cuted or deleted,
So we have one perfect audio-windows for our instruments.
We have many models from Minima (11 x 11 x 6 cm) but
also based on i7 CPU, to Trans Audio Maxima with power
from i7 CPU @5.0GHz, 32GB RAM and 4 SSD disks in RAID 0
Modus with Transfer Rate about 2.000 MB/sec. By normal Hard
Disks is this Transfer Rate about 100 MB/sec. Instruments have
many Midi Controllers, to control all functions from vArranger2
and other aplications. There are a few first informations about
Trans Audio instruments.

It must be at first finished, to be distributed. It is no go,
with updates. I haven't time to finished it. I am too busy
in studio and on production of my Trans Audio Systems
Instruments. I hope it will be finished in the next two weeks.

Yes, I know this is about sounds. The last price of whole pack was 250 Euros.
I know all about it, because I was in last staff by Live Styler and I know that
nobody has conssesion to continue with distribution of this software. I don't
know can we distribute it as free software, I mean no !!! How ever, it is bad
sampled and edited content, and can't be destination for one vArranger user,
to play with Tyros 4 bad sampled sounds. Why than not buy Tyros and play with
its original sounds ? vArranger2 offer to play with best sounds of VST instruments
or one best quality vArranger2 Synthesizer Content. This is the most important
thing by vArranger2, to be much better as all hardware arrangers.

The site of Live Styler is closed and Live Styler is closed. Norbert died and also
Live Styler died. No more selling of software for Live Styler and no one dealer
who officialy support Live Styler. Nobody have licence to distribution of the Live
Styler and Adds !!! Apropos LS Content Tyros 4, it is very, very bad !!! It is not
in the same league like vArranger2 wich is the first on the chart and the best !!!
I don't understand why we discus about Live Styler. Here is site of vArranger2.

It is no Bug with On/Off Left Sounds !!! It is all OK, Dan mean
another Bug in new version, with solo portamento Right Sounds
on vArranger Synthesizer sounds.

Yes you have a big luck. I had more pieces of SD1000 and no one
was USB powered !!! You are simply "Lucky Dan". SD1000 has
inside one microswitch, maybe is it something for USB power !!! I
shall check that.

Do you instaled newest vArranger2 Synthesizer before
replaceing of .exe file ?

Quote from: lee on March 20, 2015, 10:06:21 PM
...I hope Ketron is WORKING on ...not ignoring the bugs we have identified in 1.1?
Thanks,
Lee

They do nothing !!! This is the same update, all files are same.

All Midi Controller Pedals will work. All of them send Midi Events
to the vArranger2 and you can in Options -> Controllers define
which finctions they have to control.

Quote from: Dan on April 01, 2015, 11:45:57 PM
I have put my PA600 out of its box, and this is a very important step to listen to some RX noise...

Hahahahaha  That's good !!!

I am shure that Dan do, his very best to make vArranger2
as the number one in domain from arrangers, and also
this blocking of some hardware instruments tipicaly sounds,
is a part of this. I have no problem with two seconds work
pro style to have this style like I wont. It is only just two
seconds work !!! It is not "editing". It is just sound change.
No matter with how much styles you work, you make that 
only one time for one style. The next time you load this
style with correct RX or MV sounds. Is this so hard ?

On the other side, deblocking of RX and MV sounds, and
some Midi Notes Routing, can make very big problems by
playing other styles as Yamahas or Korgs. Roland and Ketron
have very, very good styles, some much better as Yamahas
and Korgs toys. Dan work to time, on much important functions
in vArranger2. It is either way the best arranger to time on the
market (hardware and software), and Dan make it even better
with all new functions. For exsample, the newest build has now
Roland Fantom XR as Mode in Options. It was very, very hard
work. In next days come probably Harmonize function in Scale
Modus. There are the realy important functions, and this two
seconds to change some sounds on some style tracks, can stay
in effect for some time. It has no priority, because it is not a
realy problem or a Bug. We can wait patiently, although most
users have no one problem with RX or MV sounds, because they
have very fast and very safe solution.

The same thing with Yamaha Tyros. It is nothing other !!!
I don't know why this RX or MV Voices are so big problem
for you !!! Dan will make this deblockinging, probably in the
next update, but also withot this update you can play styles
which have RX or MV voices tracks, with RX or MV Voices from
PA2X or Tyros.
Simply Change voice on style track with RX or MV Sound, with
RX or MV Sound from Instrument Definition File (for Tyros
or PA2X... 3X... xyzX), and save this style with "new" sounds
and same name. This changed sounds are on the top of hierarchy
or command structure in vArranger2 and they stay on this place
after "save" prosedure. It is very, very simple, just two seconds
work. Only one time for one style !!!
When all that is to complicated for you on english, than can you
make one thread on Trans Audio Forum and I shall explane it
to you and other users on our language.

You can use vArranger2 with KorgPA2X as Sound Engine. Find Korg PA2X
Instrument Definition and put it in order vArrangerData>Sounds>INS.
Define Midi Out in Options of vArranger2 on PA2X Midi Port and when you
Play on keybord of PA2X, than define Midi In on PA2X Midi Port. On PA2X
make Local Of function active. Now you can choice Sounds from Instrument
Definition what you put in "INS" Folder. Click on "INS & SF2" and choice
Korg PA2X on a left side of window. For every vArranger2 track you can
use Sound from this Instrument Definition and save so like style, right or
left Sound or whole song.

I understud. You need "Song Styles", and it is very simple to make it with Mix Master, but you have also one tool in vArranger2 for this kind of midi file playing with 15 Markers, which you can define in one midi file and play this parts so how you need. It is one amazing feature of vArranger2. It is possible to assign 15 controllers (Midi or PC Keys) to this Markers. Perfect !!!

Very good as sequencer defined in Style Maker or MixMaster style editors
is XG Works from Yamaha. You can very detailed edit style in XG Works and
than save it from Mix Master (or Style Maker) in .sty format.
XG Works is, in this case, only external sequencer, defined in Mix Master. After
style edit in XG Works, you return to Mix Master window and can save the style.
You can see all midi style tracks (also Chord Switch tracks) and edit them with
all tools from XG Works (the very best tools for midi editing). In a word, you can
make perfect styles with this two programs.

@paulus1971
The site wich Dan give to you, is one of the sites
with most Software for creating of Styles in Yamaha
format. The Chord Switching what Dan explained is
only with this software to make, not on any of
hardware Yamaha arrangers. Go to the site, it is very
helpfull for any user and creator of Yamaha styles !!!

It will be one kind of "Ensemble" but much. much better, not so
hard like Ensemble. It will be not only for Balkans music, it will be
for all music genres. In a few days I shall send it to Dan and I shall
explane how it works. It will be very simple, but with amazing result.

Actual situation with very, very high level of vArranger2 software, with all
of updates and 64Bit version with support of 64Bit VST PlugIns, not limited
vArranger Synthesizer sample content, new tools like Solo Controllers and
last but not least, new Song Book capabillities, make actual price of vArranger
underrate. In a word, price of vArranger2 is too small for all what this software
can and advertise.

This can be indeed the reason for your problem.  Check the Configuration.ini as semimi said.
Maybe you are forgot any one 32Bit VST inside of vArranger2 VST Slots (instruments, effects).
But this problem with icon is a little bit strange, I guess that your Win system can be the only
one offender for all.

In a word: perfect "Song Book" !!!

Thank you very much !!!

Yes, I shall say, but I need time, time, time...
to finalize all sounds. I explained it in one post
in this thread.

Dan had put a few Styles played with vArranger and TA Sound Engine
(in Beta stadium) on vArranger2 Facebook Site:
https://www.facebook.com/vArranger

You can find this demos under:
"vArranger playing styles with SF2 sounds. sampling and demo by Zlatko"


Thanx lee !!!

You maybe don"t trust, but for one serious sound engine is no matter
and full normal to sampled one Stainway or Bösendorfer piano.
I work as sound designer over 30 years, and it is enough time to sample
many, many instruments. First my serious sampled and edited instrument
was one Guerrini President Accordion which I sampled 1985. in 12Bit/32kHz
in multilayer velocity switch technology, with all artefacts of accordion. Whole
this time audio technology was going up in exponential way and today is very,
lite to make excelent samples. I work with very good equipment for sampling,
RME Fireface 802, some very good Tube Mic PreAmps and Compressors, Neumann
Microphones, Finalizer 96k from TC Electronic and a few of the best PlugIns.
It is enough to make perfect samples, but than come the hardest part of work,
the sound editing in adequate format. This is that what realy give character to
sond programs what we hear, not only the samples. Cause of that can Yamaha
in Tyros 5 with only 0,5GB Sampling ROM for all instruments, have a good sound
or also Korg PA3X with same ROM. There are not only samples but also sound
editing what make one sound engine excelent.

I have tested it blow by blow, and... no bugs !!!
All new and old funcions works perfect.

You can do that, but you need one Midi processing software
for Midi Routing of PCG-s. For example free program MidiOx.

No problems here with bridged 64Bit PlugIns. In fact,
also Hypersonic 2 or some other very, very old PlugIns
have no problems as bridged 64 Bit Plugins. When you
use jBridge for bridging of PlugIns, maybe is Setup in
jBridge not optimal.

I shall contact you in the next days and send to you
TA Sound Engine, and also this Harmony Scales what
I promised !!!