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It is very easy.

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That's right !!!

Use conventional MIDI from your Korg PA700.

Wenn du den vArrangerSynth als 32Bit installiert hast, dan kann es sein das Korg Midi Driver 64Bit nicht erkannt wird. Probiere den vArrangerSynth als 64Bit zu installieren.

CPU, Arbeitsspeicher wieviel und welche, storage (M.2 oder konventionelle SSD), Mainboard... ? Für professionellen live vArranger arbeit mit massiven VST Instrumenten und Effekten Benutzung ist ein wirklich hochpotenter Hardware und Software System nötig. Unten kannst du CPU PassMark eines Trans Audio Systems sehen der auf der Büne mit niedrigsten möglichen Latenz von 32 Sample Buffer (0,7ms) arbeitet, somit es ist mindenstens zweimal schneller als ein Top Hardware Arranger. Für sowas ist Hardware, aber genau so viel, Software Konfiguration (Audio Windows) verantwortlich. Dabei ist das ganze (Trans Audio) sehr klein für so eine überwältigende Performance (25cm x 17cm x 11cm) samt einem Touch Screen auf dem vArranger² zu sehen ist. So ist das Gerät eigentlich ein Arranger Modul mit über viertausend besten VST Sounds und Effekten gepackt. Du kannst den PassMark Program free downloaden um Performance deinen Computer zu messen.

Link:
https://www.passmark.com/products/performancetest/download.php
Lade ersten von Links !!!

Quote from: Akkordeonhansel on January 05, 2023, 04:32:14 PMHi

I strongly playing with the thought to get into vArranger, yet I wait for the newest version.
How long to wait for that vArranger3?

Cheers
Stefan

The latest version is excellent and you don't need to wait for the next version.

Es ist alles machbar, vorausgestzt du hast entsprechende Computer hardware.

Alle UAD Audio Interfaces sind von vArranger unterstützt, nur die müssen auf 44.1kHz eingestellt werden !!!

All VSTs can be configured to receive Midi events with or without some additional Apps (Host in Host VST Plugs).

Es ist nicht ganz einfach, aber du kannst es schaffen. Alles was du wissen must ist auf dem Video unten. Dafür brauchst du allerdings ziemlich potenter Audio PC. Übrigens, alle Style Tracks (ausser Guitar) sind von VST Instrumenten gespielt.

Correctly !!! No comments.

Not for Live use !!!

Try Contour ShuttleXpress.

In this case PRESONUS STUDIO 24C. It will be fast enough for live play of VST instruments but it also depends from your Computer.

You need one Audio Interface with very fast ASIO (at last about 4-6ms Latency) to play normaly VST instruments. How many inputs you need on Audio Interface. Ketron SD1000 need two inputs and if I understand you good, you have also one DAC that you want to implement in the whole system. In this case you need one Audio Interface with at minimmum 4 inputs. Than Presonus AudioBox iOne is not good choice. Presonus AudioBox iTwo will be also not OK, but one Motu M4 will be one of the best choices for you. The price is higher, but quality is very good (Motu M4 use one of the world best ADDA: Sabre32Ultra). Motu M4 has 4 inputs in a best sound quality and its Latency is very, very low. As nearfield monitors one of the best choices price/quality is JBL 305 MKII.

In this price segment maybe: Presonus AudioBox iOne as Audio Interface and for respectable homestudio nearfield monitors you have to pay some more money.

Audio Interface ASUS Xonar U7 MKII:........................... NO
- cause no ASIO Driver and it is to slow to play VST instruments in a real time.

Audio Monitors Edifier R1600T III:..............NO
- cause it is a HiFi ware, not for using in homestudio

Ich habe dich jetzt wirklich nicht verstanden !!! Welche NI Instrumentenliste ?
Es gibt Trans Audio Sound Engine auch im NI Kontakt Format wenn du an diese
Sounds dachtest. Ich habe dir vorsichtshalber schon komplette Soundliste der
Trans Audio Sound Engine in NI Kontakt Format an PM gesendet. 

Quote from: Dan on December 24, 2021, 02:48:13 PM
It is related to dispatching the virtual instruments to use the different cores of the CPU
Have good hopes for the next week

Very, very good, one of the most important functions !!!

For the best sake I don't understand so many posts about vArranger² update. vArranger² is, as it is now, by far the best arranger software on the market without any competitor to time. In actual version vArranger² has so many functions nearly as much as no other hardware arranger. It can be arranger, it can be workstation, it can be synth, midi player, audio clip player... and most importantly, vArranger² is stable like a stone. Please, a little more patience, I am shure, the next version will be really new "sweitzer knife". Let's let Dan work !!!

And what is the command DefaultStyleVolume for Ketron Styles ?

MOTU 2408mk2 & 424 is full multiclient ASIO audio interface. All Motu's interfaces are multiclient ASIO, don't worry.

Quote from: drepalla on April 05, 2021, 07:08:34 PM
...Would this work while using another host for my VST plugins?

Which Audio Interface you use ? It must be multiclient ASIO !!!

Yesssss !!!

...and than much better cause of a huge Sample ROM of V3 Sonority XXL (4GB Raw Sample Content).

I have tested V3 Sonority XXL with vArranger² in "SD1000" Midi Mode, and V3 Sonority XXL can receive all vA² commands
from "Drum Mixer" for any Drum peace (Level, Pan, Efx, Pitch...) same as Ketron SD1000 make it. Only one problem by
V3 Sonority XXL in "SD1000" Mode is that it has some delay by Style change. It can be that some SysEx commands cause this
delay. V3 Sonority XXL react also on commands from vA² Effects for SD1000 !!!

In the vArranger² version 1.19.12 is all OK, no error masages more.

We made Instrument Definition File for newest "V3 Sound Sonority XXL".

Quote from: Nikomedia on October 17, 2020, 03:34:03 PM... I will open a case on PayPal and get my money back, because nothing what was promised happened. With the screenshot I will send to PayPal, I am sure they are on my side, as they always have been until now...

What was promised and not happend ?

Make one Instruments Bank in Kontakt and load your instruments in this Instruments Bank (max. 128 sounds).
Now you can make your Presets in vArranger and save it (Program Change Nr.).

A few Style Demos from Trans Audio Style Pack (at all about 250 Styles), played from Trans Audio Sound Engine on vArranger²:

Bis es neue Update kommt, definiere die beiden Files (vArranger² und vArrangerSynth) als erlaubt in Defender.

Excellent !!!

Quote from: pwevarranger2 on August 22, 2020, 05:03:28 PM
...Yamaha Steinberg YSUSB_V203_Win.exe driver and is incredibly low in latency (5-20ms)...

Incredibly low latency is to time much lower: 1.5ms; 3ms, or by the best Thunderbolt  Audio Interfaces 0,7ms.

Master Effekte die ich benutze sind unten zu sehen und für VST 32Bit in VST 64Bit Umwandlung gibt es
als bestes zu Zeit, schon erwähnte jBridge Applikation.

Quote from: GM on August 05, 2020, 01:13:52 PM
I am more than happy with a well-known hardware solution.

Very well, than stay by your hardware solutions. All here try to explain to you that this software has so much functions and it is so complex, powerful and better than most of the best "hardware solutions". If you don't trust in us, simply don't ask.

@Soundman

Fast alles was du möchtest kannst du in vArranger² bekommen, und weiter, es spricht nichts dagegen das du beide Applikationen parallel benutzts und dabei komplettes Cantabile aus vArranger² per Midi Befehle kontrollierst !!! vArranger² kann sehr wohl als reines Workstation fungieren, aber auch als Arranger und Workstation gleichzeitig und nicht nur als reines arranger software.

Yessssss  !!!

Only one more s*** sound expander, nothing we've not heard !!!

He asks how to send Start/Stop Command Midi Control to vArranger²,
from his "MidiMaestro"-Midi System built in his Accordion.

Ich habe dir ein post über "My Messages" geschrieben.

Wenn es um beste Lösung geht, dann Roland FC300. Es ist
teuer aber sehr funktional und logisch aufgebaut.

Es sind mehr als genug Sounds im GNS Sound Bank. Wen so viel z.B. verschiedene Piano Sounds da sind, und trotzdem nicht genug sind, dann es ist kein Problem des GNS Bank. Viel Piano wie man unten sehn kann, und da sind E-Pianos nicht mal erwähnt. Aber, das ist bei weitem nicht alles... da noch viele Piano Sounds auf einem anderem Platz untergebracht sind (die, bedingt durch Genos Soundstruktur nicht nach GM/XG Standard platziert sind).



Es sind alle wichtigsten Sounds für Yamaha Genos Styles da (Mega Voices & Co.) und alle kann man auswählen auf den Rechte "Sund Balken". Die "Sounds a la Creme" die Genos so besonderes ausmachen sind unter "EFFECT EFX" Sounds untergebracht,  die zum Teil, kann man sehen und auswählen nur wen man eine von Style Tracks aktiviert hat (Mega Voices), das auch sinn macht (wozu braucht man sonst z.B. einen Mega Voice Sound, den ist unmöglich als normalen Sound zu spielen) und dan obendrauf viele, viele andere "normale" Sounds die auch bei Auswahl Right und Left Tracks zu sehen sind. Es gibt insgesamt 261 solche Sounds (unter "EFFECT EFX"). Die Sounds sind alle im MSB=8 Bank und verschiedenen LSB Banken (wie auch in Genos). Im Sound Editor des vArrangers2 kann man mit  MSB/LSB und PCG jeder Sound im beliebigen Style auf einer Style Track oder Solo Tracks wählen und dann speichern.







Und da sind z.B. auch Super Articulation Sounds und irgendwo zwischen vielen anderen Super Articulation Sounds ist auch die schon erwähnte und viel ersehnte SA Golden Trumpet:

Superior Drummer 3 work very fine in vArranger² as VST Host.

How much RAM have you in your Computer ?
Update Kontakt to actual version !!!

Genau so ist es !!! Wen noch Fragen auftauchen, ruhig fragen.

You need to set Faders on Novation Launch Control XL on Midi CC#7 for Volume
(every of 16 Midi Chanels), than Midi CC#10 for Panorama on first line of Pots,
the second line on Midi CC#91 for Hall,  and third Line on Midi CC#93 for Chorus.
Configuration for Volume (on Faders) and first Line (of Pots) for Pan is Factory
default.

Als erstes brauchts du NI Kontakt VST Instrument. Den würdest du in einen
vArranger² VST Rack Slot einfügen. Dann machts du ein Instrument Bank
im Kontakt mit adäquaten Midi Kanal. In einen Kontakt Instrument Bank kann
man 128 Sounds laden wo dann auf PCG Midi Befehle von vArranger² auf den
angestellten Midi Kanal entsprechenden Sound abrufen, ohne Ladepause, genau
wie bei Hardware Instrumenten. Es geht alles sehr leicht und schnell aber dafür
brauchts du ein ziemlich guten Computer, mit sehr guten CPU dann mit viel, viel
Arbeitsspeicher und schließlich schnellen M.2 oder SSD Plate. Nur dann kannst du
ganz entspannt mit dem Kontakt oder anderen beliebigen VST Instrument in
vArranger² arbeiten.   

You can hear here a few Style Demos on vArranger² played from
TA Sound Bank. I shall write to you on your privat Messages here
on the forum.

In TA Sound Bank are all Ketron SD1000 melody sounds (512),
all Drum Kits (and much more) and all original SD1000 Audio Drum
Loops (Live Drums). Additional, there are over 100 multilayered
first quality class sounds from real acoustic instruments over the
world. Here some demos from Styles in vArranger² played from
TA Sound Bank:


Bluegrass


Blues


Dixieland


Funky


Gospel


Kramer


Salsa



More on:
https://soundcloud.com/trans-audio-aae

 In the Top of this site from left to the right you can see: "Home", "Help", "Search", " Profile", "My Messages"... click on the "My Messages" and you will see all what you need.

Don't split the keybard, cause vArranger send Chord, right and left sounds Midi events on Midi Channel 1(in "normal" modus). You don't need most from usual functions of masterkey when you use vArranger (transpose, split...) cause vArranger make it much better for every sound (right and left). You can use controllers from your key, it will be useful. Go to Sound Editor to see how much controls you can use for every sound and save it all with Sound or/and Style, it is much more as by any masterkey. vArranger is also very good workstation with many, many controllers.

Private Message or here "my messages".

Genos Factory JazzFunk Style with Dan's vArranger² Genos Sound Bank on Trans Audio instrument !!!

https://youtu.be/3mb6Q-DuWdk

It is one of amazing funktions of vArranger². If you use two Keys
are automatically all Right (1,2,3,4) sounds on first Key, and all
Left (1,2,3) sounds on second Key. So you have two independent
Sounds simultaneously.

@josclaes

You have PM.

Ok, very good !!!

Diese vier erste Sounds werden so abgerufen wie die nach dem editierung gespeichert werden.
Das heist wenn ein Sound von den Midi Out 2 kommen soll so speichert man es als User Sound.
Dann wird es auf einen von vier erste Plätze (My Sounds) gezogen (drug & drop), und am ende
wird alles als Song (Style) gespeichert. Taste "LINK" soll aktiviert sein wen man will das diese
Funktion greift. Das ist das ganzes Prozess.

Which VST PlugIns you use in vArranger

Go to: http://www.jmelas.gr/motif/es/bundle.php and download
MO6/8 Pack. Install this Editor and you will become one VST
instrument which you can use also in vArranger to change or edit
MO6 sounds. Attention, your MO6 must be on latest firmware.
I shall try to find Instrument Definition for your MO6.

Ich mag Opas... obwohl ich bin auch nicht im Lebensfrühling, nur 61, aber das ist mein Job,
mein Beruf und Berufung. Ich werde helfen wann immer ich kann.

Yesssss, Dan has answered to you, additional will be very good if you have MO "Instrument Definition"
and copy it to: "vArranger2\vArrangerData\Sounds\INS for better sounds of MO6 to find, or change.

Quote from: Woge1000 on September 26, 2019, 05:07:00 PM
Bei mir sieht das offt so aus beim Style wechseln.Rechts alle Sounds weg.
Ich muß Neu starten und alles ist wieder da.

Da sind wir wieder bei dem "Song speichern" Window. Da sollst du beim
"Right/Left Hand Sounds" kein hacken setzen. Dan bleiben die sounds unberührt !!!




Styles oder Songs die du schon unter aktivierten "Right/Left Hand Sounds" gespeichert
hast, sollst du wieder speichern aber dieses mal ohne hacken.

...and how can it be after disabled ? With edit from .sty2 data or ?

Jaaaaa es funzt, ich habe gerade mit .png Format probiert !!!

Bingo !!! Obwohl auch da steht .txt .rtf und .pdf,
mit .png habe ich nicht probiert.

Leider so ist es, aber eine Datei in .PDF Format umzuwandeln dauert par Sekunden !!!
Damit muss man leben.

@Livio5
Ja da hast du Recht ich habe mich auf ältere Yamahas keys bezögen wo Registration
noch nur noch mit dem sounds zu tun hätte, was auch viel mehr Sinn hatte. So wie so
sind die hardware Keys alles anderes geworden nur nicht spielbare Musikinstrumenten.
Grotten schlechte Sounds, noch schlechter Keyboard (Tastatur), mit Haufen von  ganz
unnötigen Funktionen... usw...
Trotzdem ist beim vArranger² eine fabelhafte Möglichkeit gegeben alles als Song Book
(oder Song) in unbegrenzten Zahl, abzuspeichern deswegen auch, ein separates Feld
mit Registrations tasten wäre unnötig.

@freakman
Ja, vArranger² sendet beim Sounds (Registration oder Song) wechseln, Haufen von Midi
Befehle, aber dafür wo für du es brauchts, brauchst du keine Midi Datei, vArranger² hat
eine Funktion dafür, das beim Song oder Style abrufen, kommt auch Text, Sheet oder was
auch immer du gespeichert hast.   

Das ist natürlich auch eine Möglichkeit, obwohl mit einem
hardware Midi Controller wäre eleganter.

Es wurde gehen mit einem Midi Controller der erlaubt mehrere verschiedene Midi Kontrollen
gleichzeitig zu senden. Mit so einem Controller ist kein Problem mehrere vA² Kanälen zu
aktivieren oder deaktivieren.

Ich kenne auch keine hardware keyboard das kann, oder besser gesagt,
das sich im weitesten abstand damit messen kann.

@Woge1000
Du hast im vArranger² unbegrenzte zahl von Registrationen und
daher brauchts du es nicht zu exportieren oder zu importieren. Wie
gesagt, jeder User Sound (gelbe sticker) entspricht einem Yamahas
Registration. Das kannst du an unteren Bilder sehen !!!




Das was Livio5 schrieb, da dachte er an Song Book (in Yamahas
Terminologie), wo man entscheiden kann was alles mit einem
Style gespeichert wird. Und auch zahl des Song Books ist unbegrenzt.
Siehe Bild unten.

 

Das ist bei weitem noch nicht alles. Stat 4 OTS wie bei meisten oder
besser gesagt, allen hardware Keyboards, du hast ganze 20 OTS
(in vA²: My Sounds Bar). Alle 20 kannst du, wenn du möchtest, mit jedem
Style verschieden haben, anders gesagt, immer wen du einen neuen Style
wählst kommen andere 20 sounds (eigentlich Registrationen im Yamahas
jargon). Dafür sollst du beim Style Speichern (in oberen Bild) "My Sounds Bar"
aktivieren oder deaktivieren (wenn die 20 Sounds in My Sounds Bar immer
gleich bleiben sollen). So leicht ist es beim vArranger² 

Es gibt neuerdings noch was. Du kannst, wenn du willst, ersten 4 Sounds aus
dem "My Sounds Bar" jedem von 4 Main Variationen zuteilen. Das heist, immer
wen du eine Variation wählst kommt automatisch andere Sound (oder Registration
nach Yamahas Terminologie). Wie du siehst, es ist alles so flexibel wie bei keinem
anderem hardware Keyboard. Das alles sind nur ein paar Kleinigkeiten aus, fast
unbegrenzten, vArranger² Möglichkeiten.

Daher, mein rat, vor dem Kritik oder Wünschen, immer erst fragen. Meistens ist
es schon im vArranger² implementiert.

Es ist alles schön und gut mit den PAD-s und OTS !!!
Registrations haben wir schon, ich weis nicht warum
viele User oft über Registrations schreiben. Jeder
Style kann auch eine Registration sein und jeder User
Sound ist so wie so eine Registration mit möglichen
4 Sounds (Right 1, 2, 3, 4) und jeder von dieser "Rights"
hat sein Volume, Panorama, Effect Level, Apm Envelope,
Portamento, Mono-Poly... voll unabhängig von anderen.
Was soll es noch sein ?

Quote from: garciarob on September 18, 2019, 01:23:47 PM
I think that there is a false problem. Dan asks money for intermediate updates (as a prerelease ) and not for the big update (sum of the prereleases).

Yesssssss and that is good so !!!

It is too pity to use so one powerful program like vArranger² only
as Ketron SD2 Player. Too pity !!! It is a past tense. So looks Trans
Audio system with vArranger² as Workstation and Arrangeur i the
same time. One very, very powerful sound system, with thousands
and thousands best sounds and effects !!!

If you use vA² with VST instruments, than you have the best
VST Effects on the world !!! vA² is one software Arrangeur, that
open a huge world of the best studio VST Effects to use it with
the best VST sounds. The best hardware Arrangeur is without
slightest chance towards one vA² on adequate audio-configured
machine (hardware, software and system) !!! With all new vA²
functions, which Dan make to time, it will be even much better
from day to day.

Quote from: BjayG on September 16, 2019, 02:35:47 PM


...but please don't let it lose its primary purpose and add missing things such as registrtaion menu, style auditiong, and the real time stuff etc...


Barry

vArranger² has "Registration Menu", every User Sound is one Registration !!! What is "the real time stuff", please be concrete.

Nichts zu danken, Hauptsache es funktioniert und macht dir Spaß !!!

Wenn du vArranger² als VST Host benutzts,
dann gibt es nur ein weg.

It can be also better as hardware, on very good Audio Interfaces and very
good computers. Newest generation of Thunderbolt Audio Interfaces have
Latency about 1.5ms that is less than most of hardware instruments !!!

One example:

Take Instrument Definition of S950 and increase a few
different sounds.

Quote from: Donny on March 13, 2019, 06:27:34 AM
...but the resolution from Agaton worked.
With this 1360 x 768 it is shown correct.

I know about this Bug cause I had the same problem long time ago on one
Surface and I had try with different resolutions especially cause VST Slots
Window. Actually I have known that it is a problem of Intel Graphic Card on
Surface. Single solution is to define 1360 x 768 pixels resolution. On Extern
Graphic Cards (nVidia or AMD Radeon) you can work with the best resolution
which you have.

Quote from: Donny on March 12, 2019, 08:03:22 AM
Agaton: Yes i have the resolution, but the window is only bigger (Screenshot 1920_x_1080).

Try with 1360 x 768.

Have you resolution 1920 x 1080 on Surface ?

And that is the best choice !!!

You are totally wrong with your conclusion about my "assessment" !!!
Don't write about things which are strange for you, please. My discuss
was not aborted cause Dan wrote that vA² has not internal Clock, many
apps or programs have not internal clock, but this is irrelevant cause
all apps which haven't internal clock become clock from system (Win).

It will be better naturally, but it is to many new data in a vA² and
it is not only one mapping, it will be many, many mappings if it
will be in kind of Mapping Presets. To make only one function
in vA² which user later can mapp or remap Midi notes for his
Module or software instrument(s) and save it with Style, is the
same thing. It can be very useful when implement of this function
in vA² will be not a big problem for programming or if this haven't
negative influence to whole (to time) very good stability and big
efficiency of vA². But... for both ways it will be a big job. With
one Midi processing  app like Bomes Translator, it will be not pressure
for system and it will be work hidden in a background.

Repeat, I did understand all, really all !!! Change Notes or make Remapping
for your Module, what is the problem. One of Midi Processing software
like Bomes Translator make it excellent. All good VST Drums Instruments
have a few most important Mappings, for this VST Drum Instruments you
need only to select what Mapping you will and that's all.

I understud very well your question, cause of that I had try to explain that is not
posible to make it in Drum Mixer. Drum Mixer has his other function and hasn't
any margin with Midi Note remaping. You wrote "...should not be hard at all and
you already have drum mixer...". This remaping of Midi Notes for all Modules
or Software Drum Instruments will be very, very big job and it will be very hard !!!

Quote from: bluebeat on March 06, 2019, 02:36:28 PM
At least this way it would be possible to adjust particular style drums to ANY module, software or hardware.

No, it s not possible. this commands are SysEx (or NRP/NRPR) Midi events and they are typical for
one Instrument. Many of hardware or software instruments haven't no one way to control every
Drum Note. Drum Mixer in vArranger can control Drum Notes in Ketron Modules and in SF2 Drum
Instruments (restricted).

Ich melde mich über PM. Es geht um ein SD1000 Sound Bank
mit höchstqualitativen Mutilayer Instrumenten. Da sind alle Sounds
aus SD1000 mit originalen MSB;LSB und PCG. Da zu sind spezielle
Sounds für Balkan- und Orientalische-Musik in ziemlich großen Zahl
auch da. An Drums und Percussion Sounds haben wir besonders
viel und präzise gearbeitet mit viel, viel Layers um bestmögliche
Qualität, Humanize und Natürlichkeit zu erzielen.

Es ist OK und hört sich gut, aber leider es hat auch seine dunkle Seite.
Das kann man auf jedem Sampler genau so machen aber es verlangt
viel zu viel Zeit da, mit diesen Methode muss man für jeden Tonalität
und jede Skale, adequate sounds kreieren. Es wird am ende Unmenge
Speicherplatz verlangen, besonders mit vArrangerSynth, da es alle
Samples im Arbeitsspeicher lädt und kein Sample-Streaming nutzt.
Das kommt um so mehr im Vorschein wenn ein SF2 Sound Bank grösser
und besser ist (wie zum Beispiel neueste SD1000 Sound Bank bei uns,
der um 10GB gross ist). Daher ist Midi Note Routing (die Dan im vA²
Harmony Funktion benutzt hat), bei weitem bessere und flexiblere Lösung.

Mit einem kleinem software Midi Processor der in Hintergrund läuft
haben wir alle Balkan und Orientalische Skalen, die man in dieser
Musikrichtung benutzt, schon längst gemacht. Insgesamt 7 Skalen
inklusive "No Terca". Wäre besser wenn Dan die Skalen in vArranger²
implementiert könnte, aber er hatte viel zu viel andere Prioritäten
bezüglich vArranger² zu absolvieren, deswegen müssten wir es auf
andere weise lösen.  Irgendwann wird er auch das machen. Langsam !!!

Habe beide getestet. McMillen 12 Step ist ein spezielles Controller der sich
vor allem mit Akkorden beschäftigt. Auf 12 tasten ist möglich 12 5-Stimige
Akkorden zu trigern und Softstep kann man als ganz normales Midi Controller
verwenden. Der ist besonders für Kemper Profiling Amp konstruiert, obwohl
es kann für jede beliebige Midi Controlling benutzt werden. Besonderheit des
Softstep ist das es auf allen 10 Pads a 6 Midi Controller programmieren lassen.
Beide sind sehr interessant und können perfekt mit vArranger² funktionieren.
Oben erwähnte Roland FC-300 ist aber bessere Lösung wenn es um klassische
Midi Controller geht.

Sehr, sehr gut, fast perfekt, aber auch sehr teuer Roland FC-300

Quote from: Dan on January 23, 2019, 11:29:38 AM
I will try to add it for XG so it will work with all Yamaha synth
I think MOTIF is a bit different
For the VST... I think better to go on VST Options, and SAVE a PRESET... But still need to add recall of presets with song....

Yamaha Motif is not XG Standard Instrument, cause of that your add for XG instruments
will not work with Motif. For VST Instruments it will be realy the best choice to implement
"Recall of presets with Song or/and Sound".

Drum Mixer Controllers are based on SD2 and SD1000 Sys Ex commands and
this commands understand only SDs. But, with one of software midi processor or
Midi Event Router it can be "translated" to f.E. NI Kontakt sampler in which you
can address MIDI Commands to any Note. It is a big and long job but it will be
funct like on SD2 or SD1000.

Quote from: busborg on December 11, 2018, 03:10:51 AM
Hi there. I'm playing a psr s950 which I bought as a replacement for my old roland g 800.
But must admit the 950 sounds sterile in style compared to tyros4 which is 950 big brother.
the solo sounds are good but not the sound of the styles
Thinking about trying vArranger2 with my old g 800 as the midi master keyboard.
But which sound module is to be trusted.
Ketron sd 2 or sd 1000 or maybe roland sonicell.
Hope you can help me a little before I'm buys the vArranger2 and a sound module.
Regards Busborg from Denmark

You can also use sounds from your old G800 if you want, but Sound Engine from
Ketron SD1000 is very, very good, much better as sound from G800.

Yesssss, please !!!

Than you have to go to General  / Midi Setup, and check very carefully everyone
item. It is recommended that you try with conventional Midi cables to connect
Montage with your computer, cause it is not strange that USB to Midi driver is not
always the best choice. Yamaha is not the best producer of USB to Midi Interfaces.
Simply try to see the result. The first my suspicion is Midi connection or Midi processing
between Yamaha and comp.

It is anyone "kosmetic" problem, it can be fixed very fast. Montage must change sounds so fast like it do that on commands from buttons on its command table. If you have Instrument Definition for Montage, copy it in vArranger folder, it will be helpfull for Bank and PCG on Montage This issue which make latency can be find.

Das kann in die hose gehen. Nämlich FR3X sendet konstant
Expression Befehle, jede Bewegung des Balges sendet menge
Expression CC# Events und dann ist deine Musik sehr "Pitch"
hin und her reich. Weiter, dein FR3X hat Pitch Controller, und
der sitzt in oberste Bass reihe (dafür must du es im Setup nur
einschalten).

Maybe, but only maybe, it is the problem with SysEx.
Try to filter SysEx on Yamaha Receive MIDI and check it.
Yamaha has its "specially rules" on MIDI Transmit and
Receive, it can be reason for this latency. This SysEx can
make MIDI Overflow on Yamahas.

I read very, very properly, every word... but you !!!
Anyway, please be patient.

No agaton is not quite, agaton have much to do in this time,
(a few bigger projects in the same time). Don't write that about
what you don't know anything. I don't play little bit with music,
music is my job and I must work. I have downloaded your Style,
(it is probably Roland Style) but I had no time to make it, I promise
I shall make it for you, cause you are so persistent and so boring,
and sometimes also ironical that I can't read it more. Please be patient,
it is not so danger and urgent. No atom bomb is on the way to us.
 

I understand. In this case (I know that vArranger² record perfect in tempo, whole time)
it is one of more issues in your Windows System, that must be corrected or on other way
configured. Like I wrote on the beginning of this thread, the problem can be in Audio
Windows configuration, and I know now that is definitely so. You can trust me, vArranger
make no mistake with tempo, its midi tempo is very stable !!! I send to you one picture
where vArranger² synchronize stand alone NI Kontakt on 131 bpm. Whole time (2 or 3
minutes) Tempo display on Kontakt shows values between 131,00 and 131,07 bpm. This is
optimal value on Midi Clock synchronisation. Later I have recorded in same time one Style
in vArranger² and the same audio signal from vArranger Main Out in a Studio One 4. Than,
after recording I have imported audio file recorded in vArranger² on one stereo audio track
under the recorded track in Studio One 4, and both tracks were absolutely in sync whole time
(no progressive latency in a time, no latency between this two tracks at all).

So, it is one or more issues in your system, maybe also .ini file of vArranger² (this is also part
of system), maybe a few positions in Win Sys which have to be changed to play audio, maybe
you have one AntiVirus program instaled and Antivirus programs are the worst enemy of audio,
maybe your internet LAN is guilty, it is also not the best friend of audio. It can be any of them
functions that make you problem with synced audio files. The best way in so one case, to find
the cause of problem is exclusion principle because I don't know your hardware and also software
configuration. It will be solved but it can lasts some more time. If you whant to solve this problem
than please write specification of your computer, or if it is one Laptop than write Model, and write
also which Windows you have instaled, than if you have Antivirus instaled. For the beginning it will
be enough.


You wrote often about BIAB. Which version of BIAB you use, and also which version of Cakewalk you
use. Cakewalk is one of DAWs which can be synched via Midi Clock (some versions of Cakewalk Sonar),
all other big DAWs are without this function, they synced on other ways (MMC... etc). That means that
you can try one test recording with synced Cakewalk (slave) from the vArranger² (master), to see whats
happen (if your audio interface can do it). This can help me to solve the problem very fast.

Why ? Why will be recorded audio file from vArranger out of sync ? The same
you can say about any other DAW software. Why only vArranger², what is the
difference ? In vArranger² you can define Tempo like in any other DAW, 105 bmp,
131 bmp, 178 bmp... it is no matter. The same you can do in any other music
software like Cubase, Sonar etc... you can also define the same tempo like in
vArranger², same in Africa , China or Australia.
Audio in vArranger is fixed on 44.1kHz and this can't be changed, like on some 
other DAWs, that means that your Audio Interface must be also on 44.1kHz.

I don't understand what is the problem, you write confuse. Cause of that I wrote to
you, try to explain this problem one time more but detailed and precise. What you
whant to become, or what is your target to do ? Maybe I shall help you if I know
that.

This is not the secret for Dan, he know that as programmer who implement  this function in vA2 before long, long time: vArranger send continious Midi Clock thru Midi Out Ports to external Midi periphery or internal Midi Aplications. So you can synchronize vArranger2 as master  with any DAW or VST HOST which "understand" Midi Clock !!! Naturally, vArranger recorded all what you hear from its Main Outputs, and  that is not in sync with any referent Clock cause it can be only Master and that is the  fact.

@Bluebeat

It is OK Bluebeat, no matter. I had say or write, what can be the problem, I have said
that I am not sure, but one of this things what I wrote must be "guilty" (operating system
configuration, maybe also computer hardware, or audio interface). I shall make this video
in a real time that you can see that all funct and all with this "fabulous tempo" is OK when
system and hardware are OK. We shall see all, only be patience and you will see also.

Quote from: olivier71500 on November 23, 2018, 09:39:09 AM
@Agaton
Hi ,
You wrote ".... computers are with bad Audio Win or both audio interfaces are shit ...."

What do you mean by "bad audio win" ? Do you mean audio drivers ?

No, or... not only. Bad audio Windows means that this Windows system isn't configured for audio. There are many Services, Registry,  many Apps etc. what have to be erased, deactivated, configured to make this Audio Widows better or best for audio job.

Quote from: olivier71500 on November 23, 2018, 09:39:09 AM"both audio interfaces are shit" : What are for you good and bad audio interfaces ?
Is there special specifications to take care or is it for you only "build quality" ?
Olivier

Quality of Audio Interfaces AD/DA converters  is very, very important, but it is only one reason. It is
also important what kind of audio Interface it is: USB, FireWire, PCI, PCIe, Thunderbolt, than it is very important
how much occupied one Audio Interface whole system (also in idle), than how stable are ASIO Drivers, are ASIO
Drivers Multiclient or not, can it be synced with other audio device periphery via Word Clock or any other sync
way, has it DSP-s (for Mixer and Effects) or not... etc... etc... Cause of all this differences between Audio Interfaces
you can buy one for 20 € or for 5.000 €. It can be much more written about Audio Interfaces. It was one short and
global overview.

Bluebeat don't write that about what you have not enough knowledge and experience.
That what you have attached shows just what I wrote !!!
Files what I send to you are both 131 bpm but you can't use and see that, and this is
your problem. What you doing, how did you import this audio files, which mistake you
made, I don't know but, one time more, both audio files what I send to you are 131
bpm, that is a fact !!!

You may don't trust anything what I write and what I send to you about your issue.
I have no more mind to explain it again, cause of that we make so: I shall record video
file of all what I doing in real time and... cause of the result of all what you will se later,
please be carefull with your words !!!

Quote from: bluebeat on November 22, 2018, 10:56:47 PM
ok, Agaton. Instead of saying nice things about my computer and interfaces, can you upload MP3 record from VA of style I posted using your Ta Sf2? (not Kontakt), SF2 bank, please.
Thank you.

I have posted it, and not only file recorded on vA, also File recorded in the same time on DAW.
Yo don't read carefuly !!! Tempo in vA of this Blues Style was 131 bmp. Check it !!! I have posted to you
also picture and you can see that both audio files are 100% sync.

One time more the Link:

https://we.tl/t-FFECfo1nfi


I said always "nice things" about "nice" devices !!! This can be my or not, if
it not OK is, than I can not lie only cause it is my, or your, or... I have not any
"Close Encounters of the Third Kind" with audio interfaces, devices, computers. It
is only some metal and some plastic !!! I have said to you what I have to say
about problem with latency, you can trust on it or not, this is your problem !!!

One of new Styles for vArranger² which are made only with Audio Loop Tracks.
Drums, Percusions, Bass and Accoustic Rhythm Guitar in this Style are all Audio
Loops (no Sliceing, but Elastic Audio) !!! This make possible to change Style Parts
without any disorders, disturbances, crackles etc... Change of Style Parts are like
by normal conventional Styles without Audio Loops. To change to  any oder Style
part you don't need (like by some other arrangers with Audio Loop Styles) to wait
measure end, it can be changed in any moment. Simply it is like three real musicians
on the stage, with all little, but natural human musicians artefacts and original Groove
of rhythm, with huge live feeling.

Quote from: bluebeat on November 22, 2018, 08:52:53 PM
I have tried onboard card AND 2 Asio interfaces, Wasapi and Asio, 2 different computers.Different ASIO buffers. I did my homework

That means only that both computers are with bad Audio Win
or both audio interfaces are shit. If you and me have the same
vArranger2 and you have problem with sync and i haven't it by
very very hard test... what is the conclusion ?

I made for you the hardest test in a sync domain !!!
I had recorded in a same time audio from vArranger²
and in a DAW. This is the hardest situation for one
system, two differnet aplications (programs) record
in a same time the same audio, Here are both files.
Test it !!!


Link:

https://we.tl/t-FFECfo1nfi


...and no, I am in right.

Quote from: bluebeat on November 22, 2018, 07:48:26 PM
Agaton, for testing purposes.
Here are VA style file with chords (2 files) and MP3 105 BPM drums.
See if they are in sync after 20 seconds of playing.

Drums look perfect in DAW. Outputed VA WAV starts to have latency after 18 seconds and continues stretching that latency (or clock) or whatever it is called.... coming late.

Yes, you become Latency, and difference be always more and more. This is very well known problem by bad audio cards or bad audio system configurations. 
This is a reason for all your problems. All audio cards or devices become one System Clock in your computer and other periphery, this Clock must be stable but
it is  sometimes, by bad audio hardware, or bad audio computer configuration, very unstable !!! Result of this unstable audio system is just this latency that be
constantly biger and biger with the time. I don't know which audio interface you have or you use only internal sound card with ASIO4All Driver, and I don't
know how good or worse is configured your Windows for audio. There are also another devices connected on your computer that can be "guilty" for this problem.
It can be solved but I need to know all about your hardware and software what you use. I say it one time more, it is known problem and nothing new in audio domain.

I said "seems to", I don't know what make problems on your system
but without detailed analysis we can't find what is the reason for this
big BUG. How you can see, vArranger recorded file stay in tempo perfectly
in Studio One DAW as imported audio file, thats mean vArranger recording
very good. Your problem is definitely not vArranger recorded file.

Quote from: bluebeat on November 22, 2018, 05:55:07 PM
Agaton, I am using TA SF2 bank, no VSTS.
I just tried your way and used predefined tempo of one style that was 112 BPM in VA, outputted one from BIAB of 112 BPM,
They are not synced. So predefined or not it they are not in sync.

It is no matter if you use only TA SF2 or only VST or both.
They must be synced when your Win system is good configured and your Audio Interface do its job properly.
On the picture you can see how good synced stereo wav in vArranger² recorded file with same (predefined) tempo
in Studio One. I have marked some of places intentionally in the middle of the recorded file imported in Studio One. It is
amazing how good in time it is.




It seems to be that BIAB has a big problem with export of audio or with sync. !!!

It is true, there are NO LATENCY, absolutely NO LATENCY !!!

I can Argument this with various facts, from recorded audio track in vArranger² and than
imported it in one DAW (Studio One, Cubase, Sonar...) with predefined tempo of Style what
I recorded with vArranger². This track has exactly the same tempo in DAW !!! I can record
(video) when you don't trust. I sync. v.E. one external VST Host with NI Kontakt inside synced
with vArranger² Midi Clock and tempo on Kontakt varies about 0,1 bpm what is not to hear.
Under is one picture with opened vArranger² and stand alone Kontakt (not as VST in vArranger²).
You can see the tempo is the same. Kontakt is synced over Midi Clock from vArranger² !!!
Something other you make wrong !!!

Quote from: Brzzy566 on November 07, 2018, 07:43:48 AM
Please send MI demo of this software.
I want to buy it but I don't know how it works
Thanks

No Demo version !!! vArranger² hasn't Demo Version. No fear, it is the best
Arranger at all (hardware and software), with amazing functions and many, many
things about what, top hardware arrangers kann only dream !!! There are lot of Demos
on the Net about and with vArranger². You will see and hear all what you need to know
about vArranger².

Omniverb ist ein VST Effect Plugin, und den kannst du nur in FX1, FX2, FX3
und Audio In FX importieren, aber nicht in Instrument VST PlugIn Rack !!!
Auch im FX1,2,3 VST Slots musst du etwas im jBridge Settings nachjustieren,
wie auf dem Bild unten und dan funktioniert es !!!

Update in Beta version is very, very stable, new functions are amazing and
funct 100% OK. All "hard" VST instruments which had a little problems in a
previous version are now totaly compatibile. Very, very good job Dan !!!

[OK]

OMB isn't application which can be compared with vArranger² !!!

Quote from: Dan on October 06, 2018, 08:05:51 PM
The question is.... how fast it will be when changing sounds or songs.... depending on the VSTi

By Synth VSTs the change will be currently. By Hypersonic 2 too. Sample Streaming
based VST instruments like NI Kontakt, will be not usable for Live, but... but... by Kontakt we have
one choice, to make Instrument Banks and than changing of sounds will be also currently. By VST
Instruments like Omnisphere which has "Live Mode" is the same procedure like with Kontakt
Instrument Bank. So, all in all, most of VST instruments will be ready for Live use.

You have to edit this Style in one of Yamaha Style Format Editors
and in every Style Part to set Bank and PCG events for sounds which
you need to be changed in this Style Parts. vArranger² will change
this sounds in a Style parts in a way how you edited it.

Quote from: Woge1000 on October 02, 2018, 12:10:59 PM
Wie ich im Französischen Forum las,ich bin nicht alleine.
Wenn ich mit Cubase8 meinen SD1000 ansteuer, dann habe ich alle Bänke zur verfügung und viel mehr
Sounds wie im vArranger.Meine ins Datei zeigt mir ja 4 Bänke an.Gehe ich von Bamk A zu B,C und D springt
vArranger zurück nach A.Sicher kann ich Midi 1 out SD1000 direkt die Sounds aus dem Menü anwählen,aber
die hälfte fehlt einfach.Ich bin der Meinung nach 4 Updates vom Dan ist das weg.Vorher ging das mal.
Meine inst Datei ist von Sonar.
Wolfgang
Hurra!!!! Fehler gefunden.Habe gerade von Cakewalk eine andere ins Datei runter geladen.Nun Klappt das
mit SD1000

Das kann nicht sein wenn Instrumenten Definition OK ist !!! Nicht vergessen das User SF2 Banks oder Sounds können den von Dan erstellte Instrumenten Definition in SD1000 Modus überschreiben. Alle, aber wirklich alle Sounds im SD1000 Modus sind wo die sein sollen in allen 4 Bänken (0; 1; 4; 10 und 11) und nicht  ein einziges fehlt. Bei dir ist ein anderes Problem wenn du im vArranger² alle Sounds im SD1000 Modus nicht siehst.

Quote from: Dan on January 03, 2018, 09:39:55 PM
...Do you have sampled the T5 megavoices?

We in Agaton have made all Megavoices from Tyros 3 for our Trans Audio instruments.
In the next time we shall make also megavoices of Tyros 5 or Genos, this is only a few
voices more than in T3. If you need it please send me private mail.

Anazariz, my idea was to use 3 low strings  as chord strings and other 3 to solo play.
It was usually way to use Midi Guitar with one arranger. But this function with Velocity,
what Dan wrote, is very good and simplest way to play vArranger² with one Midi Guitar,
in case that you can send different velocitys value from your Guitar to vArranger².

Have you possibility in Keith McMillen, to define separate Midi Chaannels to every Guitar string ?

Import one of VST Chainer as VST Instrument and than
you can have Hall or/and Delay or any other effect.

Only with vArranger² no way !!! It hasn't
support for multiple ASIO Outs. Not yet.

It means also Bass Track but it must be active. It is enough
to write Bank and PCG on this Bass track and it will be active.
You can use Template Styles for that what you want. In this
Styles in Yamaha Style format are only Slint and a few Midi CC-s
written on the Style Tracks and all Style Tracks are active, than
you can select all sounds on Style Tracks (also your Bass sound
on the Bass Track) and save it.

Bass-Track in this Style is not active, that means there are
no Notes or Controllers on this Bass-Track. Try the same
with one Style in which Bass-Track is active, it will be OK !!!

Was gibt es beim Speicherlösung zu meckern ?

In this Style, Drum track play Brush Kit RX2 Drum Set. It is one "RX" Drum Kit
with very specially Note Number of Drums elements which hasn't nothing similar
with GM/GS/XG Drum Kits Note Number. Cause of that you can't use any one
from Ketron SD1000. It must be create one Drum Kit with Note Number of Drum
Elements, adequately to this Korgs RX Drum Kit. It is no other way. 

Hallo,

ich bin interessiert auf vArranger² mit USB Stick Dongle.
Ich werde es sofort für 170 Euro kaufen aber ich muss
sicher sein das du nachdem den vArranger² bei Dan sofort
auf meinen Namen um-registrierst. Ich bin Eigentummer von
mehr als 10 vArranger² USB Dongles und es ist genug das
du zu Dan sagst das ich es gekauft habe (Zlatko Subasic
- agaton). Wenn du Interesse hast dann melde dich bitte.

MfG.

Es ist ein ausgewachsener und sehr komplexes Audio System.
Du kannst viele Demos von den Trans Audio auf dessen Seite
hören. Die Sprache wahrscheinlich wirst du nicht verstehen aber
um so besser die Demos von den Trans Audio  Sound Engine !!!

http://transaudio.forumprofi.de/view-topic-trans-audio-styles-demos-t403.html

Gehe einfach durch ganze Thread du wirst jede menge Demos finden !!!

Wenn viele "Sounds nach Mass" gefragt sind, dann sollte man
vielleicht über ein "Trans Audio" Sound Modul nachdenken,
da gibt es keine Kompromisse. Es ist auch nicht nötig, die bei
Trans Audio zu machen.

It is possible, there are many Bluetooth Midi Apps
for iOS, Android and WinPhone.

...or Bismark VST is very, very good, but it is not free !!!

...or BassMidiVST !!!

Yes, it is very good that you can have by editing the same sounds
like on a Style Player. That could work it is not a big problem.

To time no, but I shall make it. You can also now write on English or Deutsch, almost all,
speak one of this two languages. Everything that interests you about Trans Audio Systems
(Instruments), you can ask and you will bekome right answer. Trans Audio Systems are very
complex. In the same time they are DigitalMixer, Workstation, Arranger (based on vArranger²),
Audio & Midi Player and Recorder (two Track stereo or 16 or more Tracks in the same time,
you can Recorded on the fly, without stop to play). Trans Audio instruments are immediately
ready to play with tousends of Styles and tousends of sounds. This machines are "audio Swiss
knive", with huge performance and thousends functions. More about it, you can ask on the
Trans Audio Forum. languages on the Forum are all languages  from Ex Yogoslawia, cause of
that you hadn't idea which language it is, sounds like Alien languge... hahahaha.

Thanx Lylo !!! I hope that a few user of TA Sound Engine, from
vArranger² Forum, report here their expiriences with TA Sound
Engine.

It is only software. Sound Banks in a SF2 format.
The same sounds I made also in Kontakt format.
You don't need any specially hardware.

What is "bizarre" ? Is it bizarre that I am professional and have respect and know
about business codex. Is it bizarre that I not write the price of my product, on the
vArranger² site ? It would be bizarre if I wrote the price on the portal of vArranger²
cause here distribute Dan very simmilar product (Sound Banks for vArranger²).

Is it still bizarre ?  I am sure it is not, it is extrem opposite.



Here are still few demos from TA Sound Engine. Dan linked all of this on vArranger²
Facebook together with all other demos, but I am not sure if anyone who search this
demos can find it.

TA Sound Engine on vArranger². All Styles are Factory Styles from different Keyboards.
On all Styles are Drum Kits processed with Ambient effect, which make Drums "big" and
powerfull and Style become "live" and "real instruments" feeling. There are also some
other small audio tricks on whole Style applied, to become more authenticity and reality.
All that I had implement in a TA Sound Engine, and so like you hear demos, sounding
also the Styles.

Swing

Adria Beat

Fox

Big Band

I am suspect that will be "no go", cause structure of effects is by SD2 and SD1000
different and also SysEx as Midi command to cahnge effects are different. It can be
routed (all this SysEx) to choice effects in SD1000 but it is too much work. Maybe
Dan will make this, or something simmilar for SD1000.

You want vArrangerSynth as Sound Engine for Reaper DAW !!!
vArrangerSynth can't be use like other software instruments or
VSTi PlugIns. I see only one chance to make that, but it is only
one chance. I have to check Reaper if it can do what you need.
After that we shall see.

It isn't so high as you probably expect !!! Please, come to Trans Audio Forum
and write one PP to me, or send me e-mail. I shall write all about transaction
from TA Sound Engine to you. It is much better as here all about it to discus.
I hope you understand me !!!

You can contact me on http://transaudio.forumprofi.de/index.php
and after registering or loging, write to me on PP.
Also you can make it direct via E-Mail agaton@t-online.de to order
TA Sound Engine.
You become Link for download TA Sound Engine, and some tips to
use it in vA2 for best sounding (which Mode, what of effects,  live
real time maximizing or leveling, to become best and powerful
sound, etc... etc... ).